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Subject: [AMPS] "Experts" Resistance to Resistance
From: km1h@juno.com (km1h@juno.com)
Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 14:48:12 -0400

On Sun, 20 Sep 1998 14:35:50 -0400 km1h writes:
>
>On Sat, 19 Sep 98 18:40:59 -0800 Rich Measures <measures@vc.net> 
>writes:
>
>>>Are you still harping on this subject Rich?  I havent noticed any
>>>naysayers on the AMPs reflector since I reattached 5 weeks ago.
>>>
>>The article was not directed at any particular tribe.  The IRE 
>article 
>>
>>was recently received by yours truly and I thought some folks might 
>be 
>>
>>interested.  It would have been nice to have had the article during 
>>the 
>>grate parasite debate.  
>>
>>>Reminds me of the horsecrap I got from a few "experts" about the use 
>
>>of
>>>very slightly inductive 5W MOX resistors 
>>
>>It wasn't equine feculence.  I bought a few of those resistors and 
>>they 
>>were pretty inductive.  


>So what?  Where is it cast in stone that a small inductance as part of 
>a 50-100  Ohm resistor is not going to work at HF or 6M? With a self 
>resonance around 380MHz and no series resonances indicated explain why 
>it would not work....which it does of course as proven by well over 
>100 amplifiers using them. 
>Take a look at the self resonance of typical Centralab, Sprague ( as 
>used by Heathkit) and other 1000pf/5KV doorknob capacitors...they are 
>all in the 220-240MHz range.



>>> as I use in parasitic suppresor
>>>circuits on 6M along with MuMetal as the inductor.
>>
>>Mu metal is more resistive than copper, however, there are much more 
>
>>resistive alloys.  



>More is not always better. At 330 Ohms/circular mil-foot, a Thermal 
>Conductivity of only .14, and  a 2650 degree F melting point it does 
>the job and doesnt even get warm.



>>>BTW, I work on Millimeter Wave stuff daily in my real job and you 
>>better
>>>believe we even have parasitics at 40 GHz ! The cure is often a 
>very
>>>small application of solder on a gold plated trace at the input or 
>>output
>>>of one of the TX stage amplifiers.  It has almost no effect ( about 
>
>>.2dB)
>>>at the desired TX  frequencies but certainly shuts down all those 
>>little
>>>spikes on the HP-8565E Spectrum Analyzer.
>>>
>>Interesting, Carl.  Tin/lead certainly has more R than gold.  



>Yep, a little disruption goes a long way....solder is simple and cheap 
>in the above application. Once I tame the beast then I go in with tiny 
>little pieces of gold to tune for gain specs, return loss, etc. 
>Working under a microscope can be fun. Working with ones head where the
sun dont shine is not.

>73   Carl   KM1H>




>>Rich...
>>
>>R. L. Measures, 805-386-3734, AG6K, www.vcnet.com/measures  
>>
>>
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