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[AMPS] Re: close calls

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Subject: [AMPS] Re: close calls
From: superiorwavelength@prodigy.net (G SEVEN)
Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 10:45:53 -0700
My short HV encounter began when I went to disconnect the HV cable from the
RF deck when everything was supposed to be off. What happened is the relay
that turns the HV on and off was stuck close and the bleeders didn't do
there job as well, so when I when to disconnect it I was met by 2400 VDC
that discharged from the capacitor bank into my arm. Wow, enough to get my
respect. Now I am on the verge of paranoid, I get sweaty hand just working
around this stuff. Now when ever I build a amp all the switches are non
conductive and all the shaft for the input tune, tune, load knobs have
insulated rods instead of aluminum. When its powered up and I have to work
the controls I dont want anything to be conductive anywhere near my
fingertips.

KRS

----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Rauch <w8ji@contesting.com>
To: <amps@contesting.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 6:42 AM
Subject: [AMPS] Re: close calls


>
> > A good friend and famous multi-multi contest station owner, Phil
> > Ashcraft, was killed while adjusting the tuned input on his 4X1 amp.
> > All HV is lethal, but when you get past 5kv, one little mistake will
> > probably be your last. The HV  contacted his watch band, and "welded"
> > his arm to the B+.
> >
> > Things that would never break down at 4kv such a components,
> > insulation, and even arcs in open air are not unusual. Take all the
> > precautions you can, especially when the covers are off. Amp builders
> > are a dying breed...lets hope we will all go SK by natural causes.
>
>
> I was almost killed by using the resonant choke circuit in Bill Orr's
> handbook.
>
> I used the formula he suggested and build a resonant choke filter,
> not knowing you really must have resonance above the ripple
> frequency.
>
> The supply was a small 5kva pole pig with a bridge, driving a choke
> input filter..for a pair of 3-400's. I used big oil filled caps that had
> very high voltage ratings, they were from the utility company.
>
> When I powered the thing up, the 3-400Z's would arc from their
> anodes to the grid support. When I disconnected the anodes of the
> tubes, the blocking capacitor exploded on power up. When I
> disconnected it, the bypass capacitor exploded.
>
> I placed a 5kV meter IN the ps cabinet, and attached it through a
> HV insulated test lead (40kv rated) to the HV supply positive rail.
>
> I stood back (on a rubber HV blanket), kept one hand behind me,
> and flipped a panel mounted toggle switch on. There was a flash
> and the HV lead blew in two. It snaked OUT of the cabinet and
> landed on my wrist (about two feet from the leads original position)
> on the hand that was holding the grounded toggle switch. The only
> thing that shut it off was the main fuses eventually opened.
>
> It burned a charred half-dollar sized hole in my wrist, and caused
> second degree burns up to my elbow. I still have the imprint of the
> toggle switch between my thumb and index finger!
>
> So what crossed my mind? I thought "Shit, how long will my brain
> work now that my heart is stopped?" So I watched the clock on the
> wall. When I saw the second hand make two complete sweeps
> around the dial, I thought "darned, it didn't kill me".
>
> If I was not working on a rubber HV mat, and did not have the habit
> of working with one hand...I'd have been toast.
>
> BTW I wrote Bill Orr a nice letter about this, and suggested he
> might warn people about it in the area where his handbook
> suggests using resonant filters. I have no idea if he ever changed
> his book.
> 73, Tom W8JI
> W8JI@contesting.com
>
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