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[Amps] Re: Bird® 43 Manual

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Subject: [Amps] Re: Bird® 43 Manual
From: w8ron@stratos.net (w8ron@stratos.net)
Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2002 11:43:16 -0600 (CST)
> At 11:25 AM 3/28/2002 -0500, you wrote:
> > > No.  Watt meters that hams and most engineers use at RF measure
either
> > > voltage or Current.  They do not measure *power*.  Given the
voltage or
> > > current, analog meters use a graphical conversion (called a
meter scale) to
> > > equivalent power given under the assumption of a matched
> > > termination.  Digital meters also perform a conversion in
firmware.  None
> > > of these devices measure *power*.
> >
> >My example is relevant without the need of the Bird wattmeter.  I
fully
> >accept the fact that the directional coupler samples RF
> >voltage.  I'll respond to you as I did with Steve.  Namely, in the
absence
> >of a load on a loss-less line, any and all reflected
> >power is being absorbed by the fixed-impedance source (i.e.,
broadband PA).
> >
> >If reflected power is not absorbed by the source, where is
absorbed?
> >
> >-Paul, W9AC
>
>
> I believe that the logical flaw in the argument lies in discussing
> reflected *power*.  *Power* cannot reflected; only voltage and
current are
> reflected.  We speak of reflected power merely as a convenience
because the
> meter we're looking at unfortunately has "power" written on it.  In
truth,
> it should say "voltage," so that we could more easily talk about
what's
> really happening.  Voltage and current presented to a resistive
load,
> together and in phase, result in "power."  We speak of "power" being
> transferred down a transmission line, but this power is merely a
construct:
> the only things that we can measure on the transmission line are
voltage
> and current.
>
> Kim Elmore, N5OP
>
Hi Kim.
I don't agree.
Power is reflected.
The line holds power.
If you see my last post about a step voltage applied to an endless
line , you will agree that power enters the line and is reflected back
if the line is cut and terminated in an open or a short.
---
Ron


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