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[Amps] various parasitic sources... chassis, tubes, etc...

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Subject: [Amps] various parasitic sources... chassis, tubes, etc...
From: nospam4me@juno.com (skipp isaham)
Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 20:49:43 -0800
Hi John, 
- 
Regarding the "no parasitic suppressor" portion of 
your story below... 
- 
I would think the potential for RF amplifier parasitics 
are from quite the mixed bag of sources. Each chassis 
layout and potentially each varied tube combination 
as an example...
- 
As some of the reported VHF unstable  SB-220's 
were tamed with "updated suppressors", some 
same circuit, different tube - amp Combinations 
were for the most part, always stable with the 
same basic physical layout. 
- 
I've found what I belive to be unofficial similar results 
with SB-220 and other amplifiers. My BTI LK's 
included.  One LK wants to sing like a dog while 
the other has always been pretty much rock 
solid stable.
- 
The point is you might have just gotten lucky not 
including VHF suppressors.  Although you had 
good results, could you be sure there would be 
no surprises in various tube circuit combinations..? 
- 
I would expect the only real proof of a stable circuit 
would be a track record over time.   I would also 
consider the addition of suppressors a practical 
addition and some measure (no pun intended) 
of prevention.  Pictures of damaged tubes make 
me nervous. 
-
cheers
skipp 
-
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From: "John T. M. Lyles" <jtml@lanl.gov>

I got the RFPP HFS1000G converted to 5 MHz a week back, at work. It 
was at ISM freq 13.56 MHz. Now it is driving a dedicated experiment, 
easily providing a kW output. Efficiency is about 69% not counting 
drive feedthru. The 8877/3CX1500A7 takes plenty of abuse without even 
flinching. It self biases via cathode resistor only, at about 200 mA 
idling. Dumping about 600 watts in the anode in this case. With drive 
it is better.

Changed the input to a simple pi, low Q, with no tuning needed. 
Output L was replaced with 3/16 refrig tubing coil, 12 turns, about 7 
uH. Added 150 pF padding with 15 kV ceramic doorknob caps, one NPO 
and one N750, for the C-tune. C-load padded with a stack of heavy 
duty surplus Erie RF chip caps at 670 pF. Used Hp impedance meter 
looking at the anode, with a 50 ohm load on the output. Set the 
controls for 2500 ohm loadline at the tube, and then it came on first 
time, hardly needed any tuning. By the way, the 8877 doesn't have 
parasitic suppressor. Its very stable - no surprises. Using an ENI 
240L 40 watt solid state broadband amp as the driver for the 8877.

73
John
K5PRO


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