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Subject: [Amps] CBer??
From: 2@vc.net (Rich)
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 05:00:19 -0800
>
>You probably should check him out. This is really Alex Sanderbrand again 
>but by another alias. One of several.
>
I have run into several such cases so far on the Internet with one person 
pretending to be several.  In two of these cases, the imposter also had a 
group of faithful supporters who testified as to the veracity and genius 
of the group's leader.  When it was discovered that the leader and the 
groupies all posted from the same computer and IP adr, each leader 
explained that his friends/followers didn't have computers so they came 
over to his house to post their comments.  Eventually it became clear 
that there was but one humanoid and one computer in each group.  //  One 
case involved an amateur radio antenna "expert" who invented a 
miraculously compact beam antenna for HF/MF with virtually no trade-offs 
but many esoteric design secrets.  The other case involved a religious 
"prophet" whose followers testified that they paid tithes to the leader 
because they considered him a mighty and strong prophet sent forth by 
"God".
-  RE: the claims of advanced degrees, there used to be an atheist Ham 
(WA6GVG) in LA who broadcast nightly on 75m SSB - often while inebriated. 
 He claimed to have numerous advanced degrees from Columbia, Princeton, 
et cetera.  One of the listeners was a college admissions office employee 
who regularly contacted other institutions to check on applicants for 
higher degrees.  He made some telephone calls and, as you probably 
already guessed, all of the claimed degrees were somewhat less than real. 
 
 Another Ham (W6TOG) claimed to have a doctorate and a MS in EE.   I 
helped him once with a 3cx3000A7 amplifier.  I observed that he was not 
familiar with Ohm's Law.

have fun, Bill
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Rich <2@vc.net>
>To: "mark" <mark@sandlabs.com>, "AMPS" <amps@contesting.com>
To: <amps@contesting.com>
>Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 18:51:04 -0800 
>Subject: Re: [Amps] CBer??
>
>
>
>>Well, In contrast with Mr. FuQua, I am quite young... Only 24, you see ...
>>However I had been able to acumulate 2 MS (Physics and EE) from MIT and one
>>PhD (BioMaterials) from Pasteur France
>
>It might be interesting to check these claims out with said institutions.
>>
>>... Acording to Mr FuQua, because I did not ask the HAM comunity to teach me
>>the priciple of a capacitor I am a stupid CBer :)... what can I say ... Bad
>>apples have many ways to show them selves :)
>>
>>Keep it up Bill... one of these days you WILL grow up :)
>>Mark
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: <TimNebo@aol.com>
>>To: <wlfuqu00@uky.edu>
>>Cc: <amps@contesting.com>
>>Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 11:32 AM
>>Subject: Re: [Amps] CBer??
>>
>>
>>> In a message dated 12/4/02 9:57:23 AM Central Standard Time,
>>wlfuqu00@uky.edu
>>> writes:
>>>
>>> >          I was raised to obey laws.  So when after listing to shortwave
>>for
>>> >  a few years I became interested in becoming a radio operator.
>>> >           Those days you had to have a CB license to operate and to
>>obtain
>>> >  one you had to be at least 18 years old. With the
>>> >  limitations of range and power it was obvious that I should get a ham
>>> >  license. I first got my novice and then
>>> >  general about 8 months later. I built my first transmitter (200 watt
>>CW)
>>> >  while I was in the 8th grade. I designed it
>>> >  myself using information from the Radio Amateurs Handbook.  I don't
>>think
>>> I
>>> >  would have been motivated to do so
>>> >  as a CB operator because of the lack of knowledge of the people that I
>>> >  would have been working with as compared to
>>> >  the ham radio community. By being in the ham community I had access to
>>> lots
>>> >  of experienced people  when I needed
>>> >  help.
>>> >
>>> >        CB would been quite a distraction and would delayed my
>>electronics
>>> >  education considerably. I may not have become
>>> >  an engineer if I had not become a ham. It was my eagerness to
>>understand
>>> >  electronics as a ham that improved my math
>>> >  skills to the point where I could pursue a carrier in electronics.  I
>>was
>>> >  on of those that needed apply math to
>>> >  understand it well.
>>> >           Today, such things as internet and CB are just distractions
>>for
>>> >  young people. On CB they learn right away to
>>> >  get amplifiers and make mods to operate illegally and no motivation to
>>> >  really learn anything except vulgar vocabulary.
>>> >
>>> >           I am now am involved in teaching young people radio theory and
>>> >  construction techniques to advance them beyond
>>> >  just having a license. And in doing so they are also introduced to RF
>>> >  applications in science and medicine.
>>> >  RF technology is not just used communication.
>>> >
>>> >  73
>>> >  Bill wa4lav
>>>
>>>
>>> interesting response bill. thank you very much. but i must say i've taken
>>> quite the different path as you and i'm still on my long journey to reach
>>a
>>> place where most of the men on this list have gone or will go with there
>>> knowledge and its a terrible thing to hear you belittle me or anybody else
>>> who seeks knowledge, learning, and understanding just because of the
>>> background we come from. what if your elmers had taken this approach to
>>you
>>> all those many years ago just because you were too young? or because you
>>were
>>> too short? or too tall? or for any of these silly reasons? i understand
>>how
>>> ham radio used to be and it sounds like a lovely and fond old memory that
>>i
>>> wish i could share with you but unfortunately i can't as i'm much too
>>young.
>>> my radio beginnings were in 1988 when i was 8 years old. i bought a little
>>> receiver from a garage sale that was able to cover the 49 meter sw band as
>>> well as some vhf utilities and such that got me curious on the goings on
>>of
>>> radio and it never ended from there. at the age of 12 i saved enough to
>>buy
>>> my first cb rig which was very simple and i made my first antenna which
>>was a
>>> sad looking 1/4 wave groundplane for which i found a schematic in an old
>>book
>>> at my local library. i promise you the satisfaction felt by me as a still
>>12
>>> year old kid who just made his very first working antenna was not
>>diminished
>>> at all due to the fact that it was trimmed for 27 megs instead of 28 megs.
>>> the satisfaction was the same and it felt good to talk with something i've
>>> made. it wasn't long before i found out all about skip as the cycle was
>>still
>>> hot back then and it begin to interest me. i did all of the reading i
>>could,
>>> listened to the ten meter repeaters on the police scanner, practiced my
>>code
>>> with a home built oscillator, and even contacted a local ham radio group
>>that
>>> i seen something about in the news paper. it was with this group that i
>>found
>>> out the attitude towards me was very negative because of the fact i had
>>> stumbled upon cb radio first instead of ham radio. these guys basically
>>made
>>> a young man who was soaking up knowledge at a fast rate feel like a little
>>> boy with a walkie talkie who knew nothing. now at the time i thought these
>>> guys were real super duper first class operators with all of there fancy
>>rigs
>>> and big antennas but after a lot of thinking and realizing it seemed to me
>>> that they were nothing more than a bunch of unfriendly A--holes with a
>>> superiority complex because they were "licensed operators" and i was not.
>>> until then i was really ready to join the ranks of ham radio but decided
>>i'd
>>> rather not have anything to do with a bunch of men who consider me less
>>than
>>> themselves simply because i came from a cb background and they did not
>>(i'm
>>> real sure some did but wont admit it). now i assure you i did not let them
>>> stop me from anything other than getting a piece of paper as i still did
>>all
>>> of the learning, experimenting, and fun things that any kid in ham radio
>>> growing up at the time did except i did them on the illegal 27 megahertz
>>> freqs and a lot of times with higher than legal limit power. i'm not here
>>to
>>> debate the merits of law with anybody. what i do and have done is illegal
>>> pirate radio no doubt about it but IT IS RADIO and the theories,
>>principals,
>>> and drive that motivates us all to do it is the same regardless of
>>> legalities. bill i wish i grew up in the era of homebrewing and point to
>>> point wiring like most of you did so i could have the fond memories like
>>you
>>> do but most of the advances these days are with software instead of
>>hardware
>>> and you have to have a wide range of both to be able to do anything good
>>for
>>> the radio hobby in general and that key mostly lies with the young people.
>>> its my advice you guys start accpeting and elmering anybody who is
>>interested
>>> in radio these days regardless of background or you may one day find
>>yourself
>>> without a hobby radio service at all.
>>>
>>> 73 de Tim Kp82
>>> www.KpDxGroup.net
>>>
>>> "The ability to make (and keep) many friends on the band, is the most
>>> powerful capability of your radio. This can only be achieved through QSO,
>>not
>>> QSL"
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