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Re: [Amps] The Philosophy of Science?aka The Philosophy of Sophistry

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Subject: Re: [Amps] The Philosophy of Science?aka The Philosophy of Sophistry
From: Wt8r at aol.com (Wt8r@aol.com)
Date: Tue Feb 11 12:17:40 2003
In a message dated 2/11/03 11:12:22 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
conrad@g0ruz.net writes:


Well now Eric, that is quite an aggressive email and totally uncalled for.
My point is that you have to get your hands dirty and not pontificate about
the numbers to 4 decimal places. Once ANYTHING goes outside the realms of
mathematics it is no longer exact.  Are you trying to tell me that computer
modelling is exact? I think not, they are models and as such by definition
are 'approximations'. It is impossible to be exact even with measurements,
everything is traceable to a standard.

I don't recall ever implying that people who have spent their lifetimes
making precise calculations and those who have furthered the technical
understanding of our wonderful hobby or profession had wasted their time. On
the contrary I am in awe of such people and envious of what they have
achieved and indeed hope one day to do something as useful myself.

As for arrogance we have a saying in the UK about kettles and pans calling
each other black ass!

I also only have the one armchair.

Back to building amplifiers for me, that is EXACTLY what I intend to do.

Conrad G0RUZ
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 Yes, I think you are being a simpleton (on this issue). You have no right
to sit back there in your armchairs and hurl out criticisms of the many
groups of people in the fields of science and engineering who have spent
their lifetimes on the methodology AND theory of making precise
calculations.

 I have had the pleasurable experience of working in one such group, a
group which did some of the pioneering work on CAE in electronics.
Fortunately for the world, this work done by numerical analysis experts and
programmers has led to computer tools which have been directly responsible
for great progress in all branches of science and engineering.

 For you to imply that these people have all wasted their time is arrogant,
ignorant, and very unprofessional if you are a scientist yourself.

 Eric von Valtier K8LV
=============================================================

    This is a classic example of sophistry.  GlutusMaximus desires to enhance 
his image in his own mind by writing a long treatise giving the appearance of 
intellectual superiority.  When discussion occurs concerning some of the 
statements contained in the article, Glutus responds by saying "you don't 
understand what that word means".........the point here is not that you don't 
know what I mean when I say that word, but because I am of superior 
intellingence, take my correction and admonition....and then thank me for 
doing so.   

Dave, WT8R
Errol D. Beard
David Beard
Errol Beard

   
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