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Re: [Amps] Re: Transformer in GLA 1000 B : OK for 2xGI 7 ?

To: dhallam@rapidsys.com, "amps@contesting.com" <amps@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [Amps] Re: Transformer in GLA 1000 B : OK for 2xGI 7 ?
From: craxd <craxd1@ezwv.com>
Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 17:12:40 -0400
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David,

Actually they have that transformer de-rated some by calling it a 1150 VA. It actually is about 1495 watts or VA for single phase. This leads me to believe they probably wound this for CCS duty (100%). Doesn't this transformers primary have the capability of 120 or 240 Vac? Running it at 240 Vac will only draw 1/2 the current of a 120 circuit. To get the 3000 Vdc you need, it will have to put out at least 2100 Vac. that is open circuit voltage though. It will have a drop of anywhere between 5%-10% is my guess. This is determined by the plate current, OCV, frequency, and capacitance of the filters. To get 3000 Vdc under load, you'll probably need around 2300 Vac. Now, if that 4600 Vac has a center tap, you can use a full wave rectifier with C.T. ground and get the required voltage. This will also double the current. You will have 2300 Vac on either side of ground, then rectified with two diode strings. Actually, this is the most efficient circuit where there is 100% current transfer from the transformer to the rectifiers. You would then have about 3,250 Vdc at 650 mA to play with. The wattage or VA rating will stay the same. If the 4600 Vac doesn't have a center tap for 2300, it would have to be re-wound to do it. You might get by on the current rating at ICAS for the 750 mA if you have the C.T. circuit above. Just don't hammer down for long periods of time and let it cool. If you could find out the wire size of the secondary, I can tell how much it will do and what duty cycle they have it set at. Also, see if you can get a measurement of the tongue width in the center and the depth of the core from front to back. I can tell from this the actual power in watts its' capable of.

Will Matney

David C. Hallam wrote:

Will,

Maybe you can give me some insight.  I am building a 2 KW power supply and
have an old Collins plate transformer and have no idea of its original use.
It carries the Collins P/N 672N137.  It is rated 1150 VA and 4600 V CT @ 325
mA and has a multitapped primary.  I am using the 112 V tap.  With a 122 V
line supply; I get 3725 VDC with a 15 mA bleeder load.  I am installing a
line side triac regulator to set the voltage at 3000 VDC regardless of the
load.  I have a 2:1 transformer so I can use a 220 V line and just drop to
110 V at the power supply input.

I don't know how much the transformer weighs.  I used to be able to pick it
up, but that use 30 years ago when I first bought it.  It's been in my junk
box that long.  Now I just scoot it and slide it.  It's mounted in the power
supply cabinet, and I don't intend to take it out again.

I want to get at least 670 mA and would like to get 750 mA @ 3000 VDC out of
it.  My bleeder resistor is 250K so I will have a 12 mA constant bleeder
load.  The tube is a tetrode in AB1 biased past cut off during standby.

Am I just dreaming or is this possible?

73
David



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