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Re: [Amps] RF Parts OEM 3-500ZG's

To: "k7rdx" <k7rdx@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [Amps] RF Parts OEM 3-500ZG's
From: R.Measures <r@somis.org>
Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2005 22:18:10 -0700
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On Aug 9, 2005, at 5:31 PM, k7rdx wrote:

> I was impressed the first 3KA I worked on by the sheer size of the  
> tank circuit components as well as the input network layout.

The weak sister in the 3K-A is cooling.  The el cheapo blower does not  
produce enough air pressure to keep the red paint on the tubes from  
charring to brown.  Also, the solder in the tube pins #s 1 and 5 tends  
to melt and run out during a contest.  Other problems are:  lack of a  
glitch-R in the +HV, use of high-Q VHF parasitic suppressors and weak  
3-500Z socket springs - which exacerbates the solder melting problem. .

> The thing that really looks out of place is the 3-500z tubes...It  
> seems to me 3cx3000a7 would look right at home in there, or a pair of  
> 3cx1200A7s

.... or a pair of 8877s ... (which has been done, I think by W6RU)


> Bet you wouldn`t flat top those tubes in the old Henry..Jim.
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Joe Isabella
>   To: k7rdx ; Gudguyham@aol.com ; amps@contesting.com
>   Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2005 9:59 AM
>   Subject: Re: [Amps] RF Parts OEM 3-500ZG's
>
>
>   Remember, the 3K-A was designed as a commercial/government use amp.   
> It has no standby switch, and is built pretty stout (weighs nearly  
> 200lbs.).  I'm about to take mine down to give it a good cleaning, add  
> 160m to it, and add some relays so I can remotely control the fils,  
> blower, and put it in standby when not needed.  I've seen RFP 3-500ZGs  
> do nearly 2500W out in another Henry amp that was modified -- I'm sure  
> it was pretty dirty at those levels, but hey, who cares during a  
> contest, right??
>
>   And like I said before, if you think 3-500s aren't good for 1kW PEP,  
> tell Ameritron...
>
>   :-D
>
>   Joe, N3JI
>
>
>   k7rdx <k7rdx@earthlink.net> wrote:
>     Some of the older Henry 3k amps had current limiting in the psu  
> negative and
>     required 100+ watts drive for just 1200 or so output (Easily  
> disabled).2K
>     output(Very possible) from a Henry equipped with 3-500z tubes  
> seems a bit
>     excessive to me,especially if your`e concerned about keeping  
> neighbors and
>     fellow hams happy..Jim.
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     From:
>     To: ;
>     Sent: Monday, August 08, 2005 7:58 PM
>     Subject: Re: [Amps] RF Parts OEM 3-500ZG's
>
>
>>
>> In a message dated 8/8/2005 11:56:52 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>> n3ji@yahoo.com writes:
>>
>> Maybe you should try it with **TWO** 3-500ZGs, like my Henry runs. It
>     will
>> provide nearly 4kV at 1A with Peter Dahl upgrades.
>>
>> Joe, N3JI
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I wont comment on the first sentence, but the 4KV would probably have  
>> to
>     be
>> under load. Most amps except for your Henry WONT give 4KV under load.
>     Any
>> other amp except one like yours will not produce that kind of power  
>> from
>     3-500s
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