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Re: [Amps] the last story on why need 3-500Z

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Subject: Re: [Amps] the last story on why need 3-500Z
From: "Will Matney" <craxd1@verizon.net>
Reply-to: craxd1@verizon.net
Date: Sat, 01 Oct 2005 19:28:19 -0400
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John,

I didn't think it would be much of a change but is the sockets different 
between the two, I always thought they were the same? That's what has me 
thrown, why would you need to change the sockets?

Best,

Will

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On 10/1/05 at 5:19 PM John T. M. Lyles wrote:

>Will
>Actually its not an RF application. The 3-400Z is a driver for a 
>4CX3000A, which screen modulates a pair of parallel 4CW250,000B 
>tetrodes. These are in turn the plate modulators for a Burle 7835 3 
>MW pulsed triode at 200 MHz. So the glass tube is the first stage 
>after a transistor, in the pulse modulator. It is actually used as an 
>inverter, so that the gating pulse is low, there is plate current, 
>and when the pulse is on, the 3-400Z is biased into cutoff. It is 
>less complex a circuit than I described, there is even a big fat 
>coupling capacitor on the output of the 3-400. I don't expect to have 
>much difficulty in making a 3-500Z work in the socket, once I get the 
>taller glass chimney. I may have to tweak the drive to the tube so 
>that it is truly cutoff when I am pulsing and drawing current when i 
>am not.
>
>This four tube modulator is about the size of a small bathroom, on 
>wheels. Output is 21 kV DC at 220 Amperes, for millisecond long 
>pulses. The DC power supply feeding the top of the 4CW250,000Bs 
>(plates) is about 29 kV DC, 200 uF of capacitance.
>
>73
>John
>K5PRO
>
>
>>
>>John,
>>Asside from the physical size of the innards, I always thought the 
>>3-400z had the same base as the 3-500z? If so, about the only thing 
>>will change is the increased pate current if you run them at their 
>>higher output and that will change the plate impedance so a tweaking 
>>of the tank coil may be necessary. If your going to run them at the 
>>same power out as the 400's then nothing should change 
>>theoretically. You would most likely have to cut the drive back some 
>>though to achieve this. If I'm off here let me know and will be glad 
>>to help you on converting it.
>>
>>Best,
>>
>>Will
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