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Re: [Amps] Rf choke

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Subject: Re: [Amps] Rf choke
From: jan <jan@on6zg.be>
Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 09:04:59 +0100
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Hi gang,

Thanx for all the great info, going to try a new self wound rfchoke 
today. This time i´m going to wind it on a keramic form and not on a 
teflon one.
I was told that this will also give a better result.

73´s Jan, ON6ZG.

KD7QAE wrote:

>Here are my results after building an RFC for my 2xGS35B amp:
>Progress on testing the choke:
>
>2 series resonance dips in the 30MHz spectrum.  1st dip at 7.1MHz and 
>second at 14.3MHz, clean above and below.  Tested on grounded Al plate 
>with coils normal (vertical) to the plate.  Removed Form 2 Coil 1.  
>Reduced L to 274uH and moved resonances up 1+ MHz.  Success!
>
>Reactance at 1.8MHz = 3099 Ohms
>
>Tomm, KD7QAE
>
>
>
>KD7QAE wrote:
>
>All,
>
>I just finished sacrificing 12" of Teflon bar stock to the 2xGS35b 
>project this evening.  The result is a 320uH inductor in 2 sections.  I 
>will sweep the unit tomorrow at work and report back with the resonance 
>story.  The basics are as follows:
>
>Wire:  24AWG
>OD of coils: approx. 39mm
>Form 1: Coil 1: 25mm
>Form 1: Coil 2: 27mm
>Form 1: Coil 3: 49mm
>
>Form 2: Coil 1: 26.5mm
>Form 2: Coil 2: 24mm
>Form 2: Coil 3: 18mm
>Form 2: Coil 4: 27mm
>
>The coils are parallel (against conventional wisdom) Center to Center 
>separation: 85mm.  It certainly looks cool.  I plan on adding a HV 
>capacitor and relay at the connection point if necessary to switch out 
>~1/2 of the inductance if necessary.
>
>Tomm, KD7QAE
>
>
>k7fm wrote:
>
>  
>
>>It has been stated that winding two solenoids rf chokes end-to-end will in 
>>effect make one rf choke, so that they must be at right angles.
>>
>>That statement is only true if the rf chokes couple.  But, it is possible 
>>for them not to couple.  How?  Wind them in opposite directions.  Then, 
>>coupling will be minimal.
>>
>>I just wound two solenoid rf chokes in line, separated by about 1/4". 
>>Measured the resonance of the first rf choke before winding the second. 
>>Then, wound the second with more turns, so I could look for a different 
>>resonant frequency.  The resonant frequency of the first was unaffected by 
>>the additional solenoid wound end-to-end.  Then checked the resonant 
>>frequency of the second coil.  It was right where it was supposed to be.
>>
>>I then measured the inductance and they added.
>>
>>So, it is possible to make rf chokes on one form for the purpose of avoiding 
>>resonant frequencies.
>>
>>The problem with resonant rf chokes is that the hi Q creates fireworks. 
>>There may be another solution, and that is to use resistance wire for the rf 
>>choke.  It is common to install a glitch resistor in the high voltage line. 
>>If you wind an rf choke with the correct resistance wire so that the desired 
>>resistance is equalled by the wound rf choke, then you can eliminate the 
>>resistor.  Whether the choke Q would be low enough to not worry about 
>>resonances I am not sure.
>>
>>That is a project for another day, to wind such a choke and get the Q meter 
>>out - but I do not have neough desk space to do that at the moment.
>>
>>73,  Colin  K7FM 
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