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Re: [Amps] IMD and driving power

To: "'Robert Kirkland'" <alpha76@triton.net>, <amps@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [Amps] IMD and driving power
From: "Joe Subich, W4TV" <w4tv@subich.com>
Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 10:00:00 -0400
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> As a general rule if you can reduce your amp driving power in 
> half you gain a 3db reduction in the transceiver IMD.

This is one of those "general rules" that is very wrong when it 
comes to solid state transceivers.  Almost all modern power 
transistors have a "saddle shaped" IMD curve.  When power output 
is reduced significantly below the optimum point IMD increases.  
If power is increased above optimum IMD increases rapidly.  

For example, look at the 2SC2879 used in the Yaesu Mark V Field: 
http://www.datasheet4u.com/download.php?id=71199.  The IMD vs. Power 
Output curves show a "sweet spot" around 55 to 65 watts per transistor 
before filter and transformer losses of about -38 dB.  With the losses 
in the transformer, lowpass filter and antenna tuner, this represents 
just about the transceiver's rated 100 watt output.  Decreasing power 
to 40 watts per transistor (1.4 dB) increases IMD by more than 6 dB! 
Increasing power output to 80 watts per transistor (~1 dB) results in 
an 8 dB IMD increase and pushing to 100 watts (~2 dB) per transistor 
results in a nearly 14 dB increase in IMD.  

If your amplifier requires substantially less drive than your 
transceiver produces you are better off using an attenuator on 
its input rather than reducing the drive in the transceiver. 

73, 

   ... Joe, W4TV 
 


 

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> [mailto:amps-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Robert Kirkland
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> Subject: [Amps] IMD and driving power
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> 
> As a general rule if you can reduce your amp driving power in 
> half you gain 
> a 3db reduction in the transceiver IMD. Less in, less out. Bob,w5pvr 
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