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Re: [Amps] Ameritron AL-1500 - Thank you! Also, alternative antenna to w

To: "Roger" <sub1@rogerhalstead.com>
Subject: Re: [Amps] Ameritron AL-1500 - Thank you! Also, alternative antenna to work with amp?
From: "Carl" <km1h@jeremy.mv.com>
Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2010 09:31:19 -0500
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The 1500W will be 100W or less when compared to those using gain antennas, 
especially on 40M and up where a yagi has substantial apparent gain from 
elevation pattern compression and ground gain.

An effective receiving antenna for 160-40 is simple, even for a small 
property. Buy the 4th Edition of Low Band DXing.

Carl
KM1H


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Roger" <sub1@rogerhalstead.com>
Cc: <amps@contesting.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2010 2:08 AM
Subject: Re: [Amps] Ameritron AL-1500 - Thank you! Also, alternative antenna 
to work with amp?


>
>
> Bill, W6WRT wrote:
>> ORIGINAL MESSAGE:
>>
>> On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 13:13:16 -0700, Shon Edwards <sre.1966@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>  Interesting was the return comments I got that I would probably
>>> be able to be heard with that and a nice Hy-Gain 53' vertical antenna 
>>> and
>>> not be able to hear everything coming back at me.
>>>
>>
>> REPLY:
>>
>> When you're running high power, that will be true regardless of your
>> antenna.
> I can only guess based on experience of talking to many stations around
> the world, but perhaps 15-20% of hams in the US run 800 watts (or more)
> for output.  Then there is the QRP crowd, which might be a percent or
> two.  We have a number of QRPers in this area and I think that's well
> more than average, but it's still less than 10% and more than half of
> those have the capability of running 100 watts or more. It's just one
> more facet of ham radio.
>
> Although we refer to the legal limit as being QRO, in a number of
> countries outside the US some of the hams really run QRO compared to our
> legal limit.
>> Low power stations will hear you, you won't hear them. With a
>> higher gain antenna, the HP vs LP situation remains the same but
>> happens at a greater distance.
>>
> Unless both stations are running the same power there will always be the
> disparity between hearing and being heard. Even then there are no
> guarantees. Sometimes when any particular band is really open it becomes
> difficult to tell how is running power and who is only running 100 or
> 200 watts.
>
> The same is true for a noisy band.  160, 75, and 40 are particularly
> prone to QRN and the warmer the weather the worse it gets.  If 75 is
> open in the evening, thunderstorms from Georgia to Florida, to Texas can
> be S-9 or louder up here in the central part of Michigan.  That's when
> you hope for some one out there to call you that is running power. OTOH
> if you call CQ running power when the band is noisy in your area you are
> likely to miss quite a few answers from areas with less noise.  In the
> massive pileups power may be a considerable help for the one running it,
> but timing and technique will trump power quite often unless the station
> is running REAL POWER. OTOH some one in the pile up running power, but
> with poor timing and technique is a hindrance to every one.
> Still if it gets the station with poor timing and technique out of the
> pileup quicker then the rest of us benefit.
>
> Remember that power like many things is a double edge sword
>
> 73 and good luck,
>
> Roger (K8RI)
>> 73, Bill W6WRT
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