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Re: [Amps] Automotive Relays,bad eng.

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Subject: Re: [Amps] Automotive Relays,bad eng.
From: Roger <sub1@rogerhalstead.com>
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 08:41:48 -0400
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On 8/10/2010 6:27 AM, Jim Thomson wrote:
> Date: Mon, 09 Aug 2010 10:01:42 -0400
> From: Pete Smith<n4zr@contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [Amps] Automotive Relays,bad eng.
>
> Per the RCS-10 manual, you can put a shorted PL-259 in the Antenna 1
> jack, and when you power down the control box, the line to the shack is
> grounded.  Since I only have 6 antennas, this is ideal, but I'm sure
> others will grumble about the loss of one position.  I put my dummy load
> out there under a plastic bucket.
>
> ## Interesting.  You have the line to shack grnded..but the  6 x coax line's 
> to the 6 x ants
> are floating , and not grnded.    I have just the opposite, with the 6 x ant 
> ports grnded,
> and line to shack is floating.     i have a lightning arrestor at bottom of 
> tower.  Instead
> of adding yet another relay  to the remote box..to grnd the line to the 
> shack, it could be
> done at the shack end.   IE: a 2 in, one out switch box... with the one out 
> being the
> line to the tower.    The 2 x inputs could be for the xcvr/amp.. and the 2nd 
> one a solid grnd.
>
>
> Aside from saving a little money on coax, it seems like a bad idea to
> have your antenna switch at the top of the tower.  I far prefer having
> it at the bottom.
>
> ##  I thought the entire concept was to save coax ?
For me it's convenience and like Pete, I do not want the things up top 
where they are hard to get at and prone to lightning damage.
>    I have too much loss from
> base of tower...going up 91'-101'   to get to the 4 ants..then out onto the 
> boom's.
> 100' of 213 doesn't work on 15m..never mind 10/12/6m.
>    
100' of LMR-400, or Davis BuryFlex works just fine although I use 
LMR-600 and BuryFlex for the pigtails at each end.
> ##  I can't envision folks using multiple runs of 7/8" cable ,one per 
> ant...so why not
> put the switch box at the top of the tower ?
>
>
>
> I have only had the RCS-10 for a few months, so we'll see how it goes in
> the longer term, but so far every receiving problem has traced back to
> the Stackmatch.
>
>    
I had to rebuild one of the RCS8s but that was due to a few months with 
nothing on the connectors and in that time they had become so rough I 
could not get the PL259s screwed on.  I get a lot of coronal damage on 
things on top of the tower and particularly connectors. I've never noted 
it on the tower proper, but the antennas do appear to be etched a bit.

Other than adjusting, I've not had to do any maintenance on the 
relays...so far.
> ###  If it's int relay contacts.... you could put  out 10-50 watt cxr  
> through it..and hot switch it back and forth
> several times.   The real fix is to take it apart..... before 
> fall/winter/monsoon rains/cold sets in.
>    
73

Roger (K8RI)
> Jim  VE7RF
>
>
>
> 73, Pete N4ZR
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