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Subject: [Amps] Liquid cooling
From: Larry <larry@w7iuv.com>
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 08:21:55 -0700
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The recent post regarding water cooling amps has been very interesting. 
Since I would like to build a liquid cooled tube amp, I'm looking at 
every bit of information I can find.

Some questions I have may possibly be answered by the collected 
experience of the group so here goes:

Manfred raised a question about calculating the area required for the 
liquid/cooler interface. Since I am trying to design an anode cooler, I 
have the same problem. Has there been any answer that I missed?

When I was still working I had occasion to liquid cool a few silicon 
based gadgets. From that experience I have a good feel for the plumbing 
aspects of dealing with liquid (both water and oil) and electronics. 
What I don't have is a good feeling about the problem of water and high 
voltage.

It has been stated that distilled water and DI water are both chemically 
active in the presence of metal. Is there an alternative? What about the 
new lifetime anti-freeze? Anybody check it's electrical properties? What 
about additives? I've seen mention of additives but no details.

What would be the best choice of metal for a cooler? (other than the 
obvious thermal resistance issue). I've seen a lot of coolers made from 
brass. Would not pure copper be less likely to contaminate the water 
over time? How about the solder typically used? Would the lead free 
plumbing solder be better than tin-lead? Maybe using J-B weld for the 
cooler construction would eliminate some of the dissimilar metals. Heat 
would certainly not be a problem since common vinyl tubing is usually 
used and it melts long before J-B Weld would break down. Plastic 
fittings? How about stainless steel fittings or for that matter how 
about the whole cooler made from stainless assuming you could have 
enough surface area to overcome the extra thermal resistance.

Assuming the cooler metallurgy is correct and you use common wally-world 
DI or distilled water, will the water become contaminated just sitting 
in the system over time? How long a time? I am assuming everything is 
accelerated by heat and the current caused by the presence of high 
voltage. Changing water is a issue for me. I don't want to turn on the 
amp one day and find out I need to make an unscheduled run to 
wally-world for some new water. Not to mention that draining the 
"bucket" is a problem all in itself logistically speaking.

I am not particularly interested in complex and expensive solutions 
employed in commercial applications like RF heating, SW BC and TV 
transmitter and particle accelerators. Amateur radio based projects are 
far more sensitive to cost and complexity and I seem to be more so in 
that regard than most on this list. What I am interested in is cooling 
solutions that I can build at home without government funding!

Thanks & 73,

Larry - W7IUV
DN07dg - central WA
http://w7iuv.com

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