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Re: [Amps] Bleeders

To: jtml@vla.com
Subject: Re: [Amps] Bleeders
From: Rob Atkinson <ranchorobbo@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 05:38:05 -0600
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how long is the pulse.  I learned yesterday we use spools of RG220 to
get a 1.6 usec pulse to fire a kicker magnet in a storage ring.

73

Rob
K5UJ

On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 7:19 PM, John Lyles <jtml@losalamos.com> wrote:
> For the big power supply for my TH628 amplifier, 28 kV with 225 uF, do not 
> use a high power bleeder. It is a pulsed amplifier, so we need all the 
> current we can get, during each mS long pulse. There is a slow trickle 
> bleeder (meter multiplier) along with capacitor leakage current, which can 
> take a long time to discharge.
> The normal bleed down is a string of very long Carborundum 2 K resistors in 
> series, dropped by a big Ross HV relay across the terminals, followed a 
> couple seconds later by another Ross HV relay that is a hard short to ground. 
> Then, to open the door, there are additional switches as well as big long 
> chicken sticks that are used to touch the output. Along with this goes a 
> mountain of paperwork and training to satisfy even OSHA. The relay timing is 
> all done automatically, so as not to drop before the HV charging supply is 
> off. Reverse is true on turn on.
>
> 73
> John
> K5PRO
>
>> Message: 1
>> Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 16:03:45 +0200
>> From: "Alf Pousar" <alf.pousar@surffi.net>
>> Subject: [Amps] Bleeders
>> To: <Amps@contesting.com>
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>> Why not skip the bleeder entirely, and make a current discharge circuitry 
>> when the session is over.
>> If the anode voltage is very high then stack some thyristors and fire them 
>> with opto couplers.
>> So when you hit the big switch it turns off all power to the power supply, 
>> except for the auxillary
>> circuit that keeps the draining alive and then shut off .
>> Not very compicated to do and you get rid of the bleeder heat.
>> Alf OH2QM
>
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