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Re: [Amps] filament instant heating query / simple remedy

To: "Rob Atkinson" <ranchorobbo@gmail.com>, <amps@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [Amps] filament instant heating query / simple remedy
From: "Carl" <km1h@jeremy.mv.com>
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 22:18:34 -0400
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OTOH BCB rigs, even small ones, had filament control.

Carl
KM1H


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rob Atkinson" <ranchorobbo@gmail.com>
To: <amps@contesting.com>
Sent: Friday, June 15, 2012 9:26 PM
Subject: Re: [Amps] filament instant heating query / simple remedy


> I'm having a hard time believing 3-500 filaments are stressed all that
> much.   I'd be more interested in metering the fil. voltage and being
> able to adjust it.   I know of no commercially manufactured ham amps
> that meter the filament v.   To me that is the amp/transmitter
> equivalent of an oil pressure gauge in a motor vehicle, also something
> you never see in mass market consumer vehicles.
>
> I would not put the all the AC service through an on/off switch for an
> amp.  I'd use the switch for the AC to a 28 v. relay coil DC supply
> and use relays for the higher current on/off to the h.v. etc.
> primaries.
>
> 73
>
> Rob
> K5UJ
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 8:08 PM, Leigh Turner
> <invertech@frontierisp.net.au> wrote:
>>
>> All good points you make here Jim.
>>
>> When it comes to the small desktop amps like the SB220 and TL922 having
>> separate filament transformers I find that inserting a pair of GE CL-60 
>> NTC
>> thermistors in each leg of the filament transformer primary winding 
>> provides
>> a simple remedy for implementing a soft-start. The observed glow of the 
>> two
>> 3-500Z filaments comes up nice and slow as the thermistors warm up...no 
>> big
>> surge in brightness at initial turn on as it was with the stock design.
>>
>> This is in addition to a simple short-duration resistor / AC relay coil
>> style step-start to both the HV and filament xfmrs timed predominantly 
>> from
>> the HV electrolytic charge up time constant. This relieves the inrush
>> current surge stress on the front panel ON/OFF switch contacts and the
>> electrolytic capacitor bank.
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