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Re: [Amps] GS-35B Efficiency Varies with frequency?

To: "Carl" <km1h@jeremy.mv.com>,<amps@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [Amps] GS-35B Efficiency Varies with frequency?
From: Paul Baldock <pbaldock@frontier.com>
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2012 12:43:20 -0800
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Problem is solved:

Originally I had about 8" of RG-58 between the PI input and the Cathode. I thought this would be short enough.

After reading info from W8JI's web site I now have 3 pieces of RG-58 in parallel from the PI input to the Cathode. I also moved the 10M cap and put it right on the Cathode, and compensated by reducing the cap for all other bands.

Efficiency is now better than 60% on all bands and about1300W PEP output on all bands with 70W (of dits) drive and around 3.1KV on the plate

For those that asked, the reason the plate Q is high on the WARC bands is that I am using the next higher standard band for double duty so I have less inductance than would be ideal. There is not enough position on my switch to do it correctly

Thanks for all the suggestions.

- Paul KW7Y




At 08:02 AM 12/13/2012, Carl wrote:
That is characteristic of a tired tube and the poor PS regulation doesnt help.

Carl
KM1H


----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Baldock" <pbaldock@frontier.com>
To: <amps@contesting.com>
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2012 7:50 PM
Subject: [Amps] GS-35B Efficiency Varies with frequency?


I am building a GS-35B amplifier. The efficiency drops off a lot between 80M and 10M. Although the gain is quite constant. Does any body have suggestions as to why this is or whether this is typical.

The input PI network has a Q of around 2. The PI output has a Q between 10 and 20

Here's some results with 70W Drive:

3.80MHz. Q=10, Output Power 1.1KW, Vp 3000V, Ip .54A, Ig .26A, Eff 68%
7.10MHz. Q=13, Output Power 1.1KW, Vp 3000V, Ip .60A, Ig .28A, Eff 61%
10.1MHz, Q=20, Output Power 1.0KW, Vp 2900V, Ip .68A, Ig .30A, Eff 51%
14.2MHz, Q=13, Output Power 1.1KW, Vp 2900V, Ip .70A, Ig .29A, Eff 54%
18.1MHz, Q=16, Output Power 1.0KW, Vp 2850V, Ip .78A, Ig .31A, Eff 45%
21.2MHz, Q=13, Output Power 1.0KW, Vp 2800V, Ip .82A, Ig .37A, Eff 43%
24.9MHz, Q=19, Output Power 1.0KW, Vp 2850V, Ip .79A, Ig .35A, Eff 44%
28.5MHz, Q=16, Output Power 1.1KW, Vp 2750V, Ip .85A, Ig .38A, Eff 47%

You will note as efficiency goes down the Grid current goes up (in general) for the same drive. Is this normal?

Things I have tried:

1. Checking that the bias voltage is not affected by RF. No signal Vp=3600V, Ip=140mA, Vb=34.5V. 2. Rebuilding 10M PI Output in a different configuration. (It is actually an L-PI)
3. Checking that the metering is not affected by RF

Any Suggestions?

What is a safe Max Ig for the GS-35B?

Thanks

- Paul KW7Y

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