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Re: [Amps] Holding a vacuum

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Subject: Re: [Amps] Holding a vacuum
From: "Roger (K8RI)" <k8ri@rogerhalstead.com>
Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2014 04:23:08 -0500
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On 11/26/2014 11:46 AM, Glen Zook via Amps wrote:

One example is the PL-172/8295A. Basically the same tube and the PL-172 has the 8295 designation as well, BUT the PL-172 is a metal, external anode, Pentode with the anode seal made of glass.. The 8295 is the ceramic/metal Pentode. Same tube but with ceramic seals. The ceramic/metal 8295A brings a premium price. The PL-172s are notorious for getting gassy, while the 8295a are not. The only ham amp that used them "that I know of" was the Hallicrafters HT-33A and KT-33B. The straight HT-33 used a pair of 4CX-300 IIRC.

The PL172/8295A was a nice tube with a thousand watt dissipation rating. It had a rather large anode, with a coarse fin structure that could run a KW, with just an open frame fan, or muffin fan.

73

Roger (K8RI)

It depends!  There are certain tubes, like the 3-500Z, that are notorious for 
losing vacuum.  But, I have quite a number of glass tubes that were 
manufactured in the 1920s that are still fine.
The ceramic tubes haven't been around as long as glass tubes.  But, those that 
I have, are still fine. Glen, K9STH

Website: http://k9sth.net
       From: Bill Turner <dezrat@outlook.com>
  To: Amps group <amps@contesting.com>
  Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2014 10:08 AM
  Subject: [Amps] Holding a vacuum
I'm curious as to your experiences with tubes in long term storage.
The question is, which type holds a vacuum better - glass or ceramic,
or is there no difference?

My own limited experience says ceramic is better, but that is only
with a few tubes.

All comments welcome.

73, Bill W6WRT
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