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Re: [Amps] Answer about heat failure

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Subject: Re: [Amps] Answer about heat failure
From: "Ray, W4BYG" <w4byg@att.net>
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2016 14:38:30 -0400
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Been reading the various posts on the subject of where most failures occur and wanting to add a little broader insight:

After more than 60 years in broadcast and cable TV engineering, most recently served 11 years as VP of Engineering for a satellite broadcasting network and now retired.

In addressing the issue of electronic equipment and systems failures, my experience has been that 55% to 65% (my estimate) of all the failures I have seen over the many years, were cable and connector related. Cables over time being abused or cheaply made, cables/connectors improperly chosen or installed, or sealed from moisture intrusion, if needed.

Further note on moisture intrusion and to implode a common myth: water in itself seldom causes an immediate problem. Pure water is a pretty good dielectric. But it can provide a path for contaminants to work their way into a connector, or cause ion migration between different metals and thence over time cause corrosion. This often raises the resistance of a contact and in high current situations, cause the contact to burn up. In RF applications SWR may rise (plus increased heat dissipation) and impair signal transport.

Excessive heat is not the basic problem, it is the result of a more basic problem.

Expected equipment heat removal has always been a concern, but in professional settings good engineering designs and practices usually have dealt with that sufficiently. AR operators need to give proper concern for their installations.

Most manufacturers I have had experience with both professional and AR related, spend a good bit of engineering time designing and building their pet circuits. They thus do a fair job of removing heat from their equipment. AR "installations" can be another matter though...

What manufacturers can't control is where and how that equipment is installed. It is important that due consideration be given to quality cables and connector installations and how the equipment gets fresh, cool air plus removal of the heated air, so it doesn't return to the intake.

Also, there is no shortage of "second guessers" who think they can do things differently and thus think they can do a better job. My father had a saying though. He often expressed it: "a little knowledge is a dangerous thing".

Consumer and mass produced industrial packaged power supplies are another large area of concern. They are often found in environments that they were not designed for, thus they can fail prematurely. "Bean counters" in many corporations insist their engineers buy cheap packaged power supplies from overseas and drop them into their often exotic equipments. My experience has been that is a failure waiting to happen. I recall having a $10,000 digital satellite modulator fail because of a $39 packaged power supply purchased from across the big pond. Go figure...

But generally when there is a failure, one of the first things I look for is cable and/or connector problems. If not there, I move on to power supplies.

BTW: My career AR and professional, carried me from microwatts to over 100 kilowatts.
73,
Ray, W4BYG


On 10/16/2016 9:37 PM, Riichard Neuman via Amps wrote:
  While in fact true,  recent case studys have found that EHFAS (Excessive Heat Failure 
Anxiety Syndrome) have been found treatable in more than 50% of reported cases by 
installing a higher GPM water circulation pump in the patient's "less-headroom" 
amplifier.

Richard  K3IPK

-----Original Message-----
From: Charles Harpole <hs0zcw@gmail.com>
To: amps <amps@contesting.com>
Sent: Sun, Oct 16, 2016 12:21 pm
Subject: [Amps] Answer about heat failure

The answer is TRUE.All failures of ham radios are caused, ultimately, by heat.Other 
suggestions......-vibration, which causes some component to break which cause othercomponents in the 
circuit to over-heat and fail.-component defect, or component just not installed causes 
surroundingcomponents to over-heat and fail.-operator mistakes which over-heat mis-adjusted 
circuits.and finally,-UPS-caused failures remain a mystery but customer anger is large source 
ofheat.Thanks to all who answered or just laughed.  But, don't make me ask "whatmakes a tube 
soft?"​73, signed in spirit of fun,​Charly, 
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