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Re: [Amps] Amps Digest, Vol 172, Issue 34, topic 1

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Subject: Re: [Amps] Amps Digest, Vol 172, Issue 34, topic 1
From: Gary Smith via Amps <amps@contesting.com>
Reply-to: Gary Smith <wa6fgi@yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2017 09:00:43 -0700
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A few years back we had a 2011 Toyota Prius. When I decided to install a vhf/uhf rig, I contacted Toyota with concerns about the on-board computer.

What I received was a nice two page letter on where to run the power and control cabling. Their general instructions was to run the cabling in the trough to the right of the passenger footwell in the right side of the car so to keep the rf away from the ob computer/controller.

Also, did some noodling about, found that Chrysler corp had warnings and "how to's" re HF operation in the back of their owner's manuals.

The local mobile stereo shop that did my install(s) told me they were aware of where to lace power and coax as they had accomplished many installs in off road vehicles where the owners wanted more than 3-4 Po output on from their CB rigs.

Happy to be able to contribute something to this intelligent (IMO) list,

Gary...wa6fgi


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    1. Re: Mobile Amps ? (Roger (K8RI))


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Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2017 05:52:47 -0400
From: "Roger (K8RI)" <k8ri@rogerhalstead.com>
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Subject: Re: [Amps] Mobile Amps ?
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When I purchased my Toyota 4-Runner the dealer installed the rig for me.
As the 4-Runner was up to 105,000 and starting to show some rust in
places that were not normally visible, I think I washed it twice in the
last ten years and it set outside all the time. I used it for the down
payment on a lease for a new Rav-4.  I no longer need the capabilities
of the Big 4-Runner and the new models are bigger and far more
expensive. They have offered to install the rig(s) in the Rav-4.
I'll soon find out how well it tolerates RF.

73, Roger (K8RI)


On 4/15/2017 10:12 AM, Manfred Mornhinweg wrote:
Bill, Jim,

Be careful with so much power in a mobile. Many newer cars are highly
computerized and won't tolerate RFI.
YES! My 2006 Toyota Sequoia (big SUV) went into "limp home" mode with
only 100W on 20M.
I'm a happy man! I still drive a Nissan SUV made in 1992, special
model for 3rd world countries. The only factory-installed electronics
in it is the timer for the rear wiper intermittent function! The
engine has a fully mechanical carburetor, the ignition is by points
and capacitor (called "condenser" by mechanics) in a mechanical
distributor, and so on. There is no ABS, no airbags, no catalytic
converter with all of its associated sensors and controller, no
navigation electronics, no nothing. Even the original voltage
regulator was mechanical, but I changed that to an electronic regulator.

This car is a dream for any ham: After installing resistor-type spark
plugs, there is no interference whatsoever from the car to the radios,
and of course there is no interference from the radios to the car -
it's kinda hard to QRM a carburetor! :-)

I bought this car because 1992 was the last year when cars without
emission control were licensed without much restrictions in my
country, and I intended to hold on to it while I can maintain it.
While some European environmentalists might cringe, I can assure them
that it's not as bad as they think: This car has a highly complex
carburetor, along with gas recirculation and other measures, all fully
mechanical, that result in pretty low CO, NO and HC emissions. Along
with CO2 emissions that are slightly lower than those of an equivalent
modern car!

As a ham, I wouldn't buy any car whose manufacturer forbids installing
a transceiver in it! Just like I would never buy a house in a
condominium that has antenna restrictions.

Manfred



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