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Re: [Antennaware] 160 meter 3/8 wire, steel or copper

To: Terry Conboy <>, OZ1AXG Flam <>
Subject: Re: [Antennaware] 160 meter 3/8 wire, steel or copper
From: "Joe, aa4nn" <>
Reply-to: "Joe, aa4nn" <>
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 15:42:20 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
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Your 3/8 wave 160 Inv L should be
more like 58m in length.  Then your
series feeding capacitor would be
more like 225mmf.  Try to find a
variable capacitor to adjust the
Inv L to freq of choice.
de Joe, aa4nn

-----Original Message-----
>From: Terry Conboy <>
>Sent: Sep 24, 2008 2:11 PM
>To: OZ1AXG Flam <>
>Subject: Re: [Antennaware] 160 meter 3/8 wire, steel or copper
>At 11:21 AM 2008-09-24, OZ1AXG Flam wrote:
>>A question about wire ...
>>I have constructed a 3/8 for 160 meter. I use the tower to support the
>>antenna. It runs 22 meter vertically and then (horisontal for 24,5 meters
>>(i.e. total 46.5 meter). distance from tower is 1 meter.
>>A the base of the antenna it is feed with a serial capacitor of 430 pF (a
>>330 in parallel with a 100pF : both door noob).
>>Ground is a combination of 4 ground rods and wire (space is limited). Best
>>swr @ 1860 Khz is 1:1.4. 1:2 bandwidth is app 80KHz. A noise bridse have
>>shown impedans around 70+j1.
>>Currently the wire is 1.5mm stainless steel wire.
>>How much would the antenna be improved if i substitute the SS wire with with
>>1.5mm braided copper wire?
>>I guess the seial capacitor would change as well ? any idea how much ?
>>Antennewire i use ( steel 40050 and copper: 40051):
>>OZ1AXG Flam
>I modeled this with EZNEC (without the tower) and assumed the 1.5 mm 
>diameter stainless steel wire has a resistivity of 7.2 e-7 ohm-m and 
>relative permeability of 1.02.  I estimated about 20 ohms of ground 
>loss resistance.  Here's what happens at 1860 kHz:
>Cu  G=-0.43 dBi   Z=52.6 -j 46.6   SWRmin=1.13 at 1922 kHz   BW=97 
>kHz (50 ohm SWR 2:1)
>SS  G=-1.48 dBi   Z=68 -j 36.2   SWRmin=1.44 at 1907 kHz   BW=90 kHz
>The adjacent tower will modify these values depending on where it is 
>resonant, cross section, etc.
>With copper, you should get about 1 dB more signal, a better match to 
>50 ohms, and resonance moved up about 15 kHz.  Adding another 27 pF 
>in parallel (457 pF total) should restore the resonant point.
>73, Terry N6RY
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