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Re: [Antennaware] 160 meter 3/8 wire, steel or copper

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Subject: Re: [Antennaware] 160 meter 3/8 wire, steel or copper
From: "OZ1AXG Flam" <>
Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2008 03:11:59 +0200
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Just a follow up on the question about replacing the steel wire with copper 

Today we replaced the steel wire with copper wire. Also, a 100pF in the cap 
box was replaced with a 150pF adding 50pF. To compensate for this extra 
capacity (+23pF) i added some wire to the horisontal part, in order to lower 
the center frequence.

What happend was precisly as foreseen by N6RY Terry. When the wire was 
replaced with Cu. The SWR droppen to 1:1.0 at it lowest point.
With the added wire, the resonanse ended up 1825 KHz

I also experimented with the Capacitor temperature coefficient. I had the 
box in the cooler, and the conklusion is, that it changes 1 pF per deegre 
celcius negativily (lower temp higher capacity). So the antenna will "grow" 
shorther as temperature lowers.

So thanks a lot for the help, although it was a lot of work today redoing 
the antenna it was totally worth it :=)

>From the test on the air this evening, the antenna seems to radiate as 
expected, it got some good signal reports from the states and a 559 from 
japan :=)

Regards OZ1AXG Flam

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Terry Conboy" <>
To: "OZ1AXG Flam" <>
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Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 9:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Antennaware] 160 meter 3/8 wire, steel or copper
> Flam,
> I modeled this with EZNEC (without the tower) and assumed the 1.5 mm
> diameter stainless steel wire has a resistivity of 7.2 e-7 ohm-m and
> relative permeability of 1.02.  I estimated about 20 ohms of ground
> loss resistance.  Here's what happens at 1860 kHz:
> Cu  G=-0.43 dBi   Z=52.6 -j 46.6   SWRmin=1.13 at 1922 kHz   BW=97
> kHz (50 ohm SWR 2:1)
> SS  G=-1.48 dBi   Z=68 -j 36.2   SWRmin=1.44 at 1907 kHz   BW=90 kHz
> The adjacent tower will modify these values depending on where it is
> resonant, cross section, etc.
> With copper, you should get about 1 dB more signal, a better match to
> 50 ohms, and resonance moved up about 15 kHz.  Adding another 27 pF
> in parallel (457 pF total) should restore the resonant point.
> 73, Terry N6RY


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