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Subject: SSTV
From: aa2du@netcom.com (aa2du@netcom.com)
Date: Mon Jun 19 13:27:34 1995
>Furthermore, the OO who 
>sent out all the notices last year concerning "intentional QRM" by contesters 
>during the contest 
>should be dismissed by the ARRL field organization and his identity put up for 
>public ridicule!

The CAC wrote a letter to the ARRL Membership Services department regarding this
particular OO and his deplorable behavior during the ARRL Sweepstakes.  The OO
was removed from his position early this year.

73, J.P. AA2DU

>From John-Warren@easy.com (John Warren, NT5C)  Mon Jun 19 18:39:57 1995
From: John-Warren@easy.com (John Warren, NT5C) (John Warren, NT5C)
Subject: K6KEO Internet Adr or L/L # needed
Message-ID: <1408556997-11244601@BANJO.EASY.COM>

Does anyone know the 'phone number for Ron Steiner, K6KEO, who manages the
NCDXF slide and video library? - or better still, an Internet address if he
is on-line?
                                    Thanks,  John,  NT5C.

(I realize this is not a CONTEST issue - but it is something that
contesters are very likely to know).

>From Brian Short <ke7gh@PrimeNet.Com>  Mon Jun 19 19:55:02 1995
From: Brian Short <ke7gh@PrimeNet.Com> (Brian Short)
Subject: SSTV
Message-ID: <199506191855.LAA18859@usr4.primenet.com>

Hi, thanks for your comments.  I was especially impressed with your desire
for a resolution to this ongoing problem!  Your point about it not just 
being SSTV, but also nets, etc, also impressed me.  My proposal is to 
back a CONTEST FREE ZONE at the top of the band.  This could be a refuge 
for SSTV or whatever, eliminating QRM to contesters.  That is my opinion!

73 es Thanks for condoning my orignal post (but it has raised discussion).
de Brian

> Dear Friends,
> I have been reading the comments about the SSTV's annoited frequecies and 
> their behavior during 
> the last few days and thought I would give my unsolicited, provoked comments.
> During the last 28 years of contesting (yes I am that old) and playing ham 
> radio, I have 
> observed one "social" dynamic on the ham bands that is repeatable and 
> predictable.  The dynamic 
> I speak of is the "Its my frequency and operation on this frequency is 
> allowed by me and my 
> buddies."   People who think they own the frequency are sadly mis-informed 
> and, I believe, act 
> selfishly in their own interests.  The SSTV goons are no different from what 
> has happened on 
> sacred frequencies occupied by nets, ECARS, WCARS, and sattelite users.
> The reality per the FCC law is that no one "owns" any freqency!  
> I would like to see some resolution concerning this matter, however, I will 
> not be intimidated 
> by those goons and I hope most people will choose not to be either.  
> Furthermore, the OO who 
> sent out all the notices last year concerning "intentional QRM" by contesters 
> during the contest 
> should be dismissed by the ARRL field organization and his identity put up 
> for public ridicule!
> If 14230 is open during a contest, you can bet that I will ask several times 
> if the frequency is 
> in use and if it is not, I plan to use it!  My tuning knob does not have any 
> mark on it that 
> says 14230 is allocated exclusively to SSTVrs.   On the other hand, I will 
> NEVER snuggle up to 
> an ongoing QSO of any kind (sstv or otherwise) when seeking a frequency to 
> call CQ.  When the 
> goons start their foolishness, I will ignore them (which does work) and go 
> about the business of 
> making QSO's.  
> Suggestions --- Fry the OO!...Make 14230 the province of all the Multi Multi 
> stations ....DO NOT 
> PUT UP WITH TERRORISM in any form...and this certainly includes the goons on 
> 14230 who 
> intenitonally QRM and "guard" the freq. -- as they are certainly common 
> The casual SSTV operator is not the problem here.  With the nature of a SSTV 
> signal, no 
> knowledgable contester is going to get close to a QSO or CQ.  The problems 
> are the 
> self-righteous terrorists who do the intentional, illegal QRM.  If the 
> frequency is open, use 
> the damn thing!
> No discussion of bombing, physical harm (though I have been threatened by the 
> goons several 
> times) and no intimidation is needed.  Just play contest with the knowledge 
> that no one owns the 
> frequency, not even you!
> 73s
> Natan, W6XR/2

>From Brian Short <ke7gh@PrimeNet.Com>  Mon Jun 19 20:01:56 1995
From: Brian Short <ke7gh@PrimeNet.Com> (Brian Short)
Subject: SSTV /IOTA whatever HATERS...
Message-ID: <199506191901.MAA19599@usr4.primenet.com>

Thank you for stating my sentiments better than I can!  My orignal post
was without a question "loaded."  73 de Brian

> Hi,
> It seems there are a lot of hate on the DX-reflector directed to whatever 
> people.
> It seems also that many easily can degrade them self to the improper ways of 
> talking about a 
> certain group of people as if their judgement is based on interviewing that 
> whole community. This I
> find as predjudes as saying that all italians are bad operators so I hate 
> them! If all the people who so much hate all the IOTA and SSTV people would 
> direct all their mail to the regular Usenet News groups instead of posting 
> it on the DX-reflector we could enjoy seeing fewer anouncements and those 
> only concerning real DX-related matters. I thought I joined a DX-reflector 
> not a hate this and that reflector. 
> I was connected to packet on 2m for a while but gave it up because of all 
> the stupid attacks on people and
> groups of people i found which led to that all important mail and info got 
> lost in the masses.
> Who are we gonna hate next????
> 73 de Mats SM7PKK
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