Does anyone have any ideas on loading the N6TR NAMES.CMQ into extended
memory? Even though I have 4 megs of RAM on my 386, I keep running out of
memory during contests, especially when I use the Visible Dupe Sheet option.
Unfortunately, my computer background is very limited. 73, Paul
>From Floydjr <firstname.lastname@example.org> Sun Aug 20 23:44:18 1995
From: Floydjr <email@example.com> (Floydjr)
Subject: SARTG Log via internet ?
I would like the answer to this also. 73's Jim WA4ZXA firstname.lastname@example.org
On Sun, 20 Aug 1995, Rob Snieder PA3ERC wrote:
> Does somebody know if the SARTG logs can be submitted via internet?
> 73 de Rob
> Rob Snieder PA3ERC
> member of Contestgroup Oude Maas PI4COM/PA6WPX
> Internet e-mail : email@example.com
> Packet Radio : PA3ERC@PI8MBQ
> PacketCluster : PA3ERC > PI8DXC
>From Floydjr <firstname.lastname@example.org> Mon Aug 21 00:08:41 1995
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Subject: SARTG Scores
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Category: Single Op/Low Power
Band QSO's PTS Dist DX
80 22 195 10 2
40 40 410 12 7
20 165 1930 16 33
15 9 70 4 1
10 0 0 0 0
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236 2605 42 43
Total Score: 221425
Power: 100 Watts
The only comment I have is the same one I have about all RTTY contests.
Is there anyway we can spread out on the band more. It seems everyone
only listens between 80-90. I did most of my CQ'ing below 80 and above
90. The LP stations cannot compete with the big guns in the middle. All I
ask is that we put the word out that there are stations on all parts of
the band. Still had a great time and thanks to everyone who worked me.
See everyone in CQWW.
73's Jim // WA4ZXA
>From firstname.lastname@example.org (Bill Turner W7LZP) Mon Aug 21 00:41:23 1995
From: email@example.com (Bill Turner W7LZP) (Bill Turner W7LZP)
Subject: SARTG Log via internet?
>On Sun, 20 Aug 1995, Rob Snieder PA3ERC wrote:
>> Does somebody know if the SARTG logs can be submitted via internet?
How about all contests? In ZIP format, all my 95 SARTG files together
compress into a single 18.3 kb file (246 QSOs). I looked over the past 27
contests where I have saved the files in ZIP form, and the average size was
about 20 kb. The largest was last Field Day (1000+ QSOs) which was just over
51kb. The smallest.... well, we don't need to talk about that one. :-)
Postage to mail my logs to Sweden is going to cost $3.60. Now, let's see...
exactly how much does it cost to email a file to Sweden???
73, Bill W7LZP
>From Jeffrey Yeager <firstname.lastname@example.org> Mon Aug 21 02:09:15 1995
From: Jeffrey Yeager <email@example.com> (Jeffrey Yeager)
Subject: NAQSO Results
Well this was the first time I've spent more than a couple hours
operating the QSO Party. This time I made it 7 or 8 hrs, had to take
XYL out so I could contest and goto the Huntsville Hamfest all in the same
292 x 92 = 26,772
Had alot of fun, never heard much on 10M but 20M conditions where pretty
good. 75M was all QRN here, local storms made it a real challenge.
The more I operate this contest the more I like it.
CU in CQWW
73 Jeff KQ4HC
>From Randy Thompson <firstname.lastname@example.org> Mon Aug 21 02:41:13 1995
From: Randy Thompson <email@example.com> (Randy Thompson)
Subject: Beverage kit
I have been amused by all the discussion regarding whether Beverages
should be made of copper or aluminum or steel wire. Copper seems to be
the wire of choice and doesn't cost that much anyway.
I built my first Beverage this past year. It was so easy I can't believe
I lived without one. Here's how to do it:
- Go to Home Depot (or other large hardware store) and buy 500 ft roll
#16 THHN or MTW wire. It's available in every color you can imagine for
about $15 per 500/ft roll.
- Go to local feed store and get some electric fence insulators. This
cost me about $3.
- Call your favorite radio dealer and order an ICE Beverage matching
box. Cost about $30.
- Go to Radio Shack and get a 400-600 ohm resistor. I actually used four
(4) 2K ohm resistors in parallel!
Roll out the wire in the desired direction. Mount the fence insulators to
convenient trees (my Beverage is not perfectly straight) about 7-9 feet
up. Connect one end of the wire to ground through the resistor. Connect
the other end to the matching box. Connect coax. Enjoy!
I did follow the conventional wisdom of sloping the ends down. I used
4 foot ground rods at each end.
I only have room for a 500 foot run. W3LPL has pointed out that 580' might
be a better length. Simple to solder some more wire on.
This antenna makes 80 and 160 enjoyable. Less than $50 to hear Europeans all
summer on the LF bands seems like a good deal if you have the space.
When the antenna broke this summer, I used a split bolt connector to
join the two pieces back together. You can find these for about $1 in
the electrical aisle of the Home Depot (or hardware store). No solder
Randy Thompson, K5ZD
>From John Guida" <firstname.lastname@example.org Mon Aug 21 02:46:30 1995
From: John Guida" <email@example.com (John Guida)
Subject: New Radios
Message-ID: <199508210152.UAA06915@ phoenix.net>
As long as we're pursuing the "what to get rid of" wish list on new
radios, what about this:
A "Roll Your Own" or Home Brew (what a concept!) rig. Here's how it
would work - First - the radio itself would just be in a metal
enclosure, with appropriate ports for power, antenna connections,
amplifier interface, key, mic, etc. But most important would be an
interface port for connection to the computer. No dials, knobs, or
buttons! You could put the thing on the floor!
Now, assuming the fuctionality in the radio, some fancy software that
would let you configure your own options in relation to mode,
filters, read-outs, memories, split options, electronic keyer, even
frequencies (this could keep everybody in their respective band
privileges), and on and on, and could even allow you to specify how
all of this might be graphically displayed or not. Switch the
settings and configuration easily with a mouse or even touch screen.
Maybe you could even give it a name of your choice - like the "NJ1V
Now just think of the possibilities! Locking out 2nd radios during
multi contests would be a piece of cake. Feeding information to
another multi radio on the network would be duck soup! Interface to
logging and contest programs would be greatly simplified. 100 watts
would really be that, as would 5 watts. How about building in some
monitor display capabilities? Almost an endless list!
A concept like this would also make upgrading of the radios alot
easier, instead of replacement, so I'm sure it would not be something
we can look forward to anytime soon! Gotta keep selling those new
CUL es 73.............................."victor"
John Guida NJ1V
>From Larry Crim <firstname.lastname@example.org> Mon Aug 21 03:22:01 1995
From: Larry Crim <email@example.com> (Larry Crim)
Subject: NAB in New Orleans
Any contesters attending the NAB radio show in New Orleans?
If so, it could be a good excuse to get together for a 807 and exchange
contest plans for the upcoming season.
E-mail me if you're going.
>From Masahiro Kitagawa <firstname.lastname@example.org> Mon Aug 21 03:57:25 1995
From: Masahiro Kitagawa <email@example.com> (Masahiro Kitagawa)
Subject: NO Return-Receipt-To: PLEASE!!!
>From: "John Guida" <firstname.lastname@example.org>
>Subject: Re: New Radios
>Return-Receipt-To: "John Guida" <email@example.com>
Be careful NEVER to use Return-Receipt-To: field in a huge mailing
list such as CQ-Contest@TGV.COM. Thousands of meaningless automatic
replies will flood your mail box. You will hate this even if you love
de masa JH3PRR
>From firstname.lastname@example.org (Jim Reid) Mon Aug 21 04:06:14 1995
From: email@example.com (Jim Reid) (Jim Reid)
Subject: Re- S-Meters
The obvious S-meter unit to use, were it to be accurate and useful,
seems to me, ought to be the dBm, or in our case,
-dBm. This unit is used "universally" in radar, microwave
communication technology, etc. In a 50 ohm impedance
system, 0 dBm is the power being dissipated in a 50 ohm
resistor when the I-squared-R power across it is 1mWatt.
And, if my arithmatic is correct, one-half microvolt across
the same 50 ohms is -113 dBm. In microwave communications
work, the standard for thermal noise energy in the systems is referenced
to the noise power in the 50 ohm resistor, at "room" temperature
with a 1mHz bandwidth of spectrum of rf energy (anywhere in the
spectrum, it is not frequency dependant) in noise power in the
1 mHz bandwidth, is -114 dBm.
Per the ARRL Handbook, many years ago, manufacturers
of Amateure band receivers wanted to establish 50 microvolts
across 50 ohms as an S-9 signal, with S-unit steps below
that occuring in -6 dB decrements. An S-9 signal would become a
-73 dBm signal on our new dBm scale. (50 microvolts is 100
times the one-half microvolt calculated above to be -113 dBm;
since power goes as the voltage change squared, that becomes
a 10,000 times change in power, or 40 dB stronger signal, or
-113 dBm + 40 dB + -73 dBm.
Then were it possible, the S-unit to dBm conversion would be:
S-9 -73 dBm
Fortunately, we don't use 1Mz bandwidths for HF communications,
otherwise our weak DX signals would be burried in the -113 dBm noise
level. In fact, DX signals are typically searched for by CW ops using
500 kHz bandwiths in the IF passband. This bandwidth decreases the
thermally generated noise in our receiver's system by the ratio of
the 1mHz to 500 Hz bandwidth difference, or a lowering of noise power
by 33 dB (1 mHz down to 1kHz is a drop of 1000 times in bandwidth, or
30 dB, and dropping from 1000 Hz to 500 Hz is a drop of one-half, or
another 3 dB drop, netting the 33 DB drop in noise power). The thermal
noise energy then presented at the input antenna terminals of any of
our transceivers in 500 Hz of RF bandwidth is then -113 dBm ( the energy
in 1 mHz) plus drop of 33 dB from the bandwidth narrowing to 500 Hz,
or an input thermal noise level of -146 dBm.
Now the ARRL test lab engineers over the years have measured the
minnimum discernable signals (MDS's) of nearly all of the rigs used
by contesters and the deserving DX searchers. These are tabulated in
each edition of the ARRL's Equipment Buyer's Guide for tests in both
the 20 and 80 meter bands. Some examples of their measurments at
20 meters for the rigs many of us use were:
FT1000D - 137 dBm
TS-950SD -142 dBm
Unfortunately, the ARRL data does not tell us what IF bandwidth
filters they were using when the data was taken, but from what we've
just calculated it's a pretty safe bet they were using 500 Hz bandwidths
in these tests, as the few dBs difference between the thermal levels
measured and the actual thermal noise in 500 Hz of spectrum width
of -146 dBm is the added noise in the RF front ends of the rigs tested,
or their so called noise figures.
It is because of the real meaning within dBm numbers that can be
obtained, that I propose it for the "new" S-meter standard in a futuristic
new rig. Unfortunately it will be very diffiacult in actual practice to
because the measurment has been conveiiently taken from the AGC
voltage in all modern rigs. Because the gain distribution is different for
each band in each manufacturer's desings, the AGC voltage developed
for a given signal level is different on each band; therefore at least two
and probably more parameters are changing among rigs which will
yield different S-meter readings for the same absolute received signal
level: the nosie figure of the rig changes per band, and the stage
gain distribution changes per band.
A way of actually measuring the received signal level, at RF, would
probably be required, or laboratory spectrum analyzer technology
would be needed to get much better S-meter reading acurracy
no matter what the scale reading unit may become, but its fun
to dream about it, isn't it!
By the way, an excellent book which covers these topics in
great detail is ON4UN's book, "Low Band DX'ing." He avers
that for an SSB signal, when using 3 kHz bandwidth receiver filters,
the receiver noise floot is -129 dBm, that the minimum, operator
useable signal is with a signal to noise ratio of 10 dB, or with an
input signal level to the rig of -119 dBm, or a little stronger signal
than the S-1 level of -121 dBm the rig builders of some years ago
were trying to push as the amateur S-meter unit scale.
Well, Jeff, I am afraid I got a little long-winded in my reply, but
your question was a good one.
73 and Aloha,
Jim Reid, AH6NB (Happily retired on the Island of Kauai)
Hawaii, USA Email: firstname.lastname@example.org
>From Trey Garlough <GARLOUGH@TGV.COM> Mon Aug 21 04:57:08 1995
From: Trey Garlough <GARLOUGH@TGV.COM> (Trey Garlough)
Subject: Frequently Asked Questions
CQ-CONTEST@TGV.COM Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) List
Revised: May 12, 1995
What is CQ-CONTEST?
CQ-CONTEST@TGV.COM is an electronic mail reflector dedicated to hams
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QST; INFO-HAMS@UCSD.EDU and rec.radio.amateur.misc are good places to
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Use regular email to send a message to a specific individual.
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Pick up a copy of the book _The Internet Companion_ by Tracy LaQuey,
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>From email@example.com (Tyler Stewart) Mon Aug 21 05:38:06 1995
From: firstname.lastname@example.org (Tyler Stewart) (Tyler Stewart)
Subject: New Radios
>Further suggestions on things to remove from the front of radios....
>Well, for remote control, they could remove everything, and replace them with
>a twisted pair jack.... Then the software and your trackball will control the
>radio, which will be in the equipment shack at the base of the monster tower
>well outside of town, while you are comfortably, feet up, in your den...
Twisted pair?!? You mean fiber optic cable....Sure would be a hell of a lot
easier and cheaper to run 1 fiber optic cable to each tower than half a dozen
hardlines...tie in your rotator controls, etc... run electric to the base
of the tower and you're all set.
It should be the next wave of amateur technology...integrated computer control
and "lossless" feedlines.
73, Tyler KF3P
>From Marijan Miletic <email@example.com> Mon Aug 21 06:48:26 1995
From: Marijan Miletic <firstname.lastname@example.org> (Marijan Miletic)
Paul, KB8N introduced interesting concept of future HF radios in the form of
"hamcube" siting on the top of the tower and doing all the RF work while being
remotely controled by PC via optics. I'd love to have 1500W one BUT I wonder
how often I'd have to climb the tower? I am just preparing to do so in order
to replace simple 1N4007 diode rectifying 60mA for my 24V antenna relays...
73 de Mario, S56A, N1YU.
>From email@example.com (Tony and Celia Becker) Mon Aug 21 04:15:49 1995
From: firstname.lastname@example.org (Tony and Celia Becker) (Tony and Celia Becker)
Subject: a little NAQP SSB Score
NA QSO SSB SUMMARY SHEET
Contest Dates : 19-Aug-95, 20-Aug-95
Callsign Used : AE0M
Operator : AE0M
Category : Single Operator
Default Exchange : Tony CA
Team/Club : Northern California Contest Club
BAND Raw QSOs Valid QSOs Points Mults Ants (100% aluminum free)
40SSB 12 12 12 10 Delta Loop @ 8'
20SSB 94 94 94 36 Delta Loop @ 12'/ Attic Dipole
15SSB 3 3 3 2 Delta Loop @ 16'/ Attic Dipole
Totals 109 109 109 48=20
Final Score =3D 5232 points in 5 hours.
RIG: FT-990, FL7000 at 150W & 486DX2-66 MHz running N6TRLog version 5.24. =
Off time stategy was dictated by company picnic 4 - 10 PM, so I had to=20
leave just as 20m was beginning to favor my low wires. Upon returning, I=20
only had the last 10 min. on 40m.
Best hour was 2241@40 per hour. Best 10 min. was 0558@72/hr
AE=D8M, Tony Becker - email@example.com - Silicon Valley, U.S.A.