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Subject: Sportsmen:
From: K8DO@aol.com (K8DO@aol.com)
Date: Sat Sep 9 14:41:59 1995
My personal opinion....
Pre-arranging a qso prior to a contest is an act of collusion and is as
invalid as calling them on the telephone during the contest...the fact that
the act of collusion occurs, temporally, prior to the contest period, does
not excuse the conduct...if the act is invalid during the contest, it is
invalid per se...Any form of aid in locating a contact is unsportsmanlike...
It is no different in kind than shooting a sitting bird, or using dynamite in
the old fishing hole, or sneaking a look at the examination paper of the guy
on your left... 


Anticipating some  reactions:
To argue that no radio contest can be totally fair because some will always
have bigger towers and live on a 400 foot cliff above the atlantic ocean,
etc., etc, etc. , therefore all contesting is 'no holds barred' , is specious
and intellectually dishonest... and is not an argument which carries any
weight with me...

Addendum:
If you choose to comment, this topic is about specific contesting
principles... Not personalities, calls, or specific countries...Please
arrange your remarks accordingly...

Denny  K8DO@AOL.COM



>From robert <w5robert@blkbox.COM>  Sat Sep  9 19:42:17 1995
From: robert <w5robert@blkbox.COM> (robert)
Subject: Sportsmen:
Message-ID: <9509091342.aa21626@blkbox.COM>

Denny, Iwould like to comment on making skeds before the contest.
As I understand the CQ WW rules, It's OK for CQ WW.
See K3EST's CQ WW Contest Handbook, page 47 (94 edition on pg 47)

-- 
73 Robert  WB5CRG  w5robert@blkbox.com   

>From Will Sill <will@epix.net>  Sat Sep  9 20:20:05 1995
From: Will Sill <will@epix.net> (Will Sill)
Subject: Sportsmen:
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.950909150619.23189A-100000@mango.epix.net>


On Sat, 9 Sep 1995 K8DO@aol.com wrote:

> My personal opinion....
> Pre-arranging a qso prior to a contest is an act of collusion and is as
> invalid as calling them on the telephone during the contest...the fact that
> the act of collusion occurs, temporally, prior to the contest period, does
> not excuse the conduct...if the act is invalid during the contest, it is
> invalid per se...Any form of aid in locating a contact is unsportsmanlike...
> It is no different in kind than shooting a sitting bird, or using dynamite in
> the old fishing hole, or sneaking a look at the examination paper of the guy
> on your left... 

                <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

I am very much inclined to agree.  The INTENT to "cheat" may not be there,
but it's my opinion that arranging contest skeds is one of the practices
that takes away from the spirit of contesting significantly.  It gives an
edge - an unfair one, IMO, to individuals with the time and resources to
"line up"  the ducks in advance - very much like setting out a salt lick
for deer season.  

Myself, I would like to hope that another amateur who outscores me in my
class did so because he/she was a more proficient operator and not because
of having a clandestine "pit crew" smoothing the track ahead of time. It
doesn't mean a lot for me to "win" unless it's just me and my radio!

will@epix.net - KD3XR - W F Sill, Tunkhannock, PA

>From Igor Sokolov" <igor@sokol.pssr.e-burg.su  Sat Sep  9 02:27:09 1995
From: Igor Sokolov" <igor@sokol.pssr.e-burg.su (Igor Sokolov)
Subject: ??TS-430 Final transistors
Message-ID: <ADjrEKmWFG@sokol.pssr.e-burg.su>

A friend of mine RU9CO got a problem with final of his TS-430 that stops him
from participating in the contests. Can somebody please send me  specs
on 2SC2290 transistors which are used in that radio. What is the possible 
substitute?
How much does it cost (a pair). Knowing the specs we may find some Russian
substitute (I hope...).
Please, reply  directly to me, not to overload the reflector traffic.
Thanks in advance.

--
Best regards,
Igor Sokolov,  UA9CDC , (N3TOD)
E-mail: igor@sokol.pssr.e-burg.su
Phone/Fax: 3432 229621


>From Igor Sokolov" <igor@sokol.pssr.e-burg.su  Sat Sep  9 01:16:52 1995
From: Igor Sokolov" <igor@sokol.pssr.e-burg.su (Igor Sokolov)
Subject: Sportsmen
Message-ID: <ABqpDKmWFG@sokol.pssr.e-burg.su>

Hi Denny,
I predict, this is going to be a long thread

>Pre-arranging a qso prior to a contest is an act of collusion and is as
>invalid as calling them on the telephone during the contest...the fact that
>the act of collusion occurs, temporally, prior to the contest period, does
>not excuse the conduct...if the act is invalid during the contest, it is
>invalid per se...

How about making your call known by operating between the contests or
letting others know that you are going to operate in the contest. Or did
you only mean land line calls and mail and other "non-Ham related" methods?

>Any form of aid in locating a contact is unsportsmanlike...

I was always wondering if it is unsportsmenlike during CW contest to ask
someone, operating on SSB to give you 001 CW QSO.

>It is no different in kind than shooting a sitting bird, or using dynamite in

Or maybe it is just preparing your shooting position and finding out the
WX forcast?

>Denny  K8DO@AOL.COM

--
Best regards,
Igor Sokolov,  UA9CDC , (N3TOD)
E-mail: igor@sokol.pssr.e-burg.su
Phone/Fax: 3432 229621


>From oo7@astro.as.utexas.edu (Derek Wills)  Sat Sep  9 20:52:01 1995
From: oo7@astro.as.utexas.edu (Derek Wills) (Derek Wills)
Subject: Sportsmen

        >>I predict, this is going to be a long thread

It was fairly long the last 2 or 3 times this came up.   Sigh.
If the last time's exchanges are archived, someone should just
send that to anyone who is interested, I'm sure nothing new has
happened since last time.

See at least one of you in the Sprint (contest) -

Derek AA5BT, G3NMX
oo7@astro.as.utexas.edu

>From Larry Tyree <tree@cmicro.com>  Sun Sep 10 07:05:16 1995
From: Larry Tyree <tree@cmicro.com> (Larry Tyree)
Subject: Sprint score rumors
Message-ID: <199509100605.XAA13107@cascade.cmicro.com>


Here are the scores that were captured on 3829 after the NCJ CW Sprint. 

If you have any additions, you can send them to kc7kmc@cmicro.com.

K5GA            295     45      13275   
KC5NWX (KR0Y)   269     49      13181   LP (WOW!)
K7UP            263     45      11835   
WN4KKN          241     47      11327   LP
K2ZJ            263     43      11309   
W2RQ            267     42      11214   
KT3Y            255     43      10965   
N6XI            247     44      10868   
NM5M            253     42      10626   
K0RF            230     46      10580   LP
AC6T            245     43      10535   
K6XO            248     42      10416   
N6RO            254     40      10160   
N6VR            254     40      10160   
N4OGW           246     41      10086   
K6LL            245     41      10045   LP
KC5PRF (K5GN)   232     42      9744    LP
AC8E (K8MR)     231     41      9471    
K9ZO            230     41      9430    
KC7KMC (N6TR)   227     41      9307    LP OpAid6
KB0SRK          238     39      9282    LP
N8SR            237     39      9243    
NN7L            237     39      9243    
WB5SQG (K5ZD)   221     40      8840    LP
AH3C            231     38      8778    LP
KC5OYM (N5RZ)   208     42      8736    LP BUG
KA6LAF (N6AA)   198     44      8712    LP
VE4VV           229     38      8702    
KA9FOX          221     39      8619    
NV6O            215     40      8600    
W0UA            238     36      8568    LP
WA2SRQ          219     38      8322    LP
W5NN (KB5YVT)   198     42      8316    LP
KE6UCF (N6TV)   205     39      7995    LP
AA7BG           191     37      7067    LP
N6YK            178      0      ??      
W6MVW           174     39      6786    
WK6V            160     42      6720    
WR3O            163     34      5542    
N6TR (K2MM)     140     39      5460    
K1IU            128      0      ??      
VE5SF           125     33      4125    
K6LRN           115     30      3450    LP
KE7X             66     27      1782    
WX9E              0      0      0       VLP

Tree KC7KMC
kc7kmc@cmicro.com

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