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Subject: 40-meter SSB intruders in CW band
From: n0dh@comtch.iea.com (n0dh@comtch.iea.com)
Date: Tue Oct 17 16:31:29 1995
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k0od@MO.NET Wrote:

   In addition to those Indonesian pirates, I hear Central American SSB 

stations most days on 7.003 Mhz around 1200-1400Z. They are quite loud in 

the US Midwest. I have heard them sign XE and YS amateur calls in 

Spanish. Anyone know whether these stations are operating legally? They 

wipe out some of our most useful DX frequencies.   
       -----------------------------
       Jeff K0OD  St. Louis, MO  USA
            e-mail:   k0od@mo.net
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Yes they are Mexican amateurs and they are operating per Mexican regulations.
They are infringing on a long standing gentlemans agreeement however to stay
out of that portion of the band with SSB.

Perhaps we could organize a boycott?

Maybe no body works any Mexican amateurs under any circumstances 
(rag chews, contests, dxpeditions, etc)(except an emergency)until
they police their own and move them back up the band where they belong??


Dave
N0DH/7

(FLAME SUIT ON ! ~8>)  ).

>From Cain, Jim,  K1TN" <jcain@arrl.org  Tue Oct 17 17:33:00 1995
From: Cain, Jim,  K1TN" <jcain@arrl.org (Cain, Jim,  K1TN)
Subject: TopBand: Beverage Preamps
Message-ID: <3083DB2E@arrl.org>


I am no expert but my experience is to forget it.

Your receiver should have plenty of gain to make
up whatever you feel you need, if your matching
transformer is doing its job and you don't have
three zillion miles of feedline.

Suggest you read the N4KG article in a not so
long ago NCJ; Tom gave up ground rods and
terminating resistors and found he lost very
little (I am going to do the same, since the
deer keep pulling up my ground rods and
walking away from them). If you don't believe
me, ask N7NG, who saw a deer in my front
"yard" the week before last.

JC

>From Larry Schimelpfenig <lschim@mailstorm.dot.gov>  Tue Oct 17 17:30:37 1995
From: Larry Schimelpfenig <lschim@mailstorm.dot.gov> (Larry Schimelpfenig)
Subject: 40-meter SSB intruders in CW band
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.951017121903.16902A-100000@mailstorm.dot.gov>

 

On Tue, 17 Oct 1995 n0dh@comtch.iea.com wrote:

> 
> <---- Begin Included Message ---->
> k0od@MO.NET Wrote:
> 
> Yes they are Mexican amateurs and they are operating per Mexican regulations.
> They are infringing on a long standing gentlemans agreeement however to stay
> out of that portion of the band with SSB.
> 
> Perhaps we could organize a boycott?
> 
> Maybe no body works any Mexican amateurs under any circumstances 
> (rag chews, contests, dxpeditions, etc)(except an emergency)until
> they police their own and move them back up the band where they belong??
> 
>end included mail

Aha the ole peer pressure trick. How much do they want to rag chew with 
the gringo's? I think that all the digital stuff above 7050 or so is 
driving the phone ops from south of the border into the cw band. Compare 
the usage and signal levels between the 7000/7050 and 7050/7100khz 
portions of the band. Actually listen to the whole band on most given 
nights. If you weren't limited by band use restrictions, where would you 
be operating fone? Course this doesn't explain the CB atmosphere that 
Fred K3ZO has described as being so pervasive in SE Asia....... Forty 
used to be a great band, but appears to be on a downward surge! 
de Larry K7SV in VA - lschim@mailstorm.dot.gov



>From km9p@is.net (Bill Fisher, KM9P  Concentric Systems, Inc.)  Tue Oct 17 
>18:59:28 1995
From: km9p@is.net (Bill Fisher, KM9P  Concentric Systems, Inc.) (Bill Fisher, 
KM9P  Concentric Systems, Inc.)
Subject: Digital traffic (Was 40m SSB Intruders)
Message-ID: <199510171759.NAA00860@mail1.is.net>

> I think that all the digital stuff above 7050 or so is 
>driving the phone ops from south of the border into the cw band. 


Definately is the digital stuff.  Go up there and listen some time.  

The problem with the digital modes is that the operator can turn down the
volume on his transceiver and go to the bathroom (or whatever) and come back
to see if his side of the QSO went through.  Meanwhile, you have all of the
rest of us on CW and SSB trying to actually copy a signal.  Guess who wins?
The computer doesn't get mad when it can't complete an exchange, it just
tries again.

Sooooo...  Until "they" set aside a seperate portion of the band for ONLY
digital signals, we will be forced to deal with the inevidable results of
the increased digital traffic.

You should be pointing your fingers at the digital guys or even better yet
the guys that do the allocations.  Definatley not the guys on SSB.  They are
just responding to a problem.

73

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Bill Fisher, KM9P   -    Concentric Systems, Inc.  




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