I even feel uncomfortable when someone is disqualified in a contest for
whatever reason...We have too many kilocycle cops. Not only the government,
but whoever can get it, wants to take your space.
(And it ain't lawyers...I seen 'em and I are one!)
Chuck
KE5FI@AOL.COM
>From Bill Turner <wrt@eskimo.com> Fri Dec 22 06:58:36 1995
From: Bill Turner <wrt@eskimo.com> (Bill Turner)
Subject: Shame on N2AA for not repeating the message.
Message-ID: <199512220659.WAA23066@mail.eskimo.com>
At 11:53 AM 12/21/95 EST, Kurt Pauer wrote:
-snip-
>Really, why do people repeat messages in reply messages? I have not
>been able to figure that out. Is there any GOOD reason to retransmit
>a message that has already been sent to everyone?
-snip-
------------------------------------------------
Well, suppose I had skipped the above and just posted a message that said "I
find it is more effective that way". Would you know what I was talking
about? Would others? How much bandwidth would be wasted asking me what on
earth AM I talking about?
I agree that more editing of the repeated messages could be done in most
cases, but to eliminate them entirely would cause a lot of confusion, I think.
73, Bill W7LZP
wrt@eskimo.com
>From Robert Penneys <radio@UDel.Edu> Fri Dec 22 11:45:05 1995
From: Robert Penneys <radio@UDel.Edu> (Robert Penneys)
Subject: Where is Write-Log?
Message-ID: <199512221145.GAA26010@copland.udel.edu>
A while ago, Write-Log, a Windows-based contest logging program, was
available by FTP.
Is it still? Would you know from where?
Also, has anyone used this puppy and have any comment?
Tnx, Bob WN3K
>From Robert Penneys <radio@UDel.Edu> Fri Dec 22 11:46:44 1995
From: Robert Penneys <radio@UDel.Edu> (Robert Penneys)
Subject: N.E.R.D.S. needed fr NAQP/Sprint teams!!!
Message-ID: <199512221146.GAA26035@copland.udel.edu>
Yes, it's been too long. Let's put the N.E.R.D.S. back together for
NAQP and Sprint.
Sign up now!!!
Bob WN3K
>From Bill Fisher KM9P <km9p@akorn.net> Fri Dec 22 13:47:51 1995
From: Bill Fisher KM9P <km9p@akorn.net> (Bill Fisher KM9P)
Subject: W4 NAQPers ???
Message-ID: <Pine.BSD/.3.91.951222084701.6040A-100000@paris.akorn.net>
Any of you red necks want to put a couple of teams together?
Bill, KM9P
>From Dr. Eugene Zimmerman" <ezimmerm@DGS.dgsys.com Fri Dec 22 14:07:14 1995
From: Dr. Eugene Zimmerman" <ezimmerm@DGS.dgsys.com (Dr. Eugene Zimmerman)
Subject: ENFORCEMENT-contests and otherwise
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.951222084108.13738A-100000@DGS>
Chuck
I too cringe when I see someone disqualified from a contest. But I can
assure you that at least for the CQ and the ARRL contests, this is quite
rare and done only as a last resort. Many more stations COULD be disqualified
under the published rules but very very few actually are.
Careful log checking and an occasional disqualification, when warrented,
is a necessary function of running a contest. How else can be be sure that
the logs are accurate and that the participants are honest?
In the utopian world of Plato, there were originally no laws and all the
inhabitants lived moral and ethical lives. But even Plato knew that in a
human society, this was a false utopia, and so followed up with the
treatise called "Laws" where ethical and moral behavior was codified for
a real society. I wish there were no reason to check logs and disqualify
people but we too live in the real world and without these checks and
balances, contests would be a sham.
Of course there are some egregious forms of cheating -- running real
superpower - judicious use of packet by single ops, and so forth -- for
which the standards of proof for disqualification are difficult or
impossible to meet. But those who win or place high by practicing any
form of deliberate cheating and derive pleasure from their standing are
more to be pitied than admired.
Finally you are right when you say
> (And it ain't lawyers...I seen 'em and I are one!)
If there were no contesters searching for loopholes in the rules to give
them an advantage over their competitors instead of trying to improve
their contesting skills and their stations so they could compete on their
merits, the rules could be much simpler and there would not be these long
threads on the reflector featuring dissection of the loopholes by the
contesting "lawyers". Maybe that is the problem, these guys are
practicing law without a license.
73 Gene W3ZZ
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