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Nice comments, Tree-
I believe there was a request for topics to discuss at the Contesting
Forum at Dayton- I think this thread (and others- SO2R, ethics,
categories, etc.) is worthy of spending an hour or two
in open debate/discussion- not just the guns up front, but an open forum
of ideas and comments from the gallery-
I, for one, would be thrilled to voice my opinions about this (and other
apsects of our sport) in person to my competitors ( I say that with a bit
of tongue in cheek) at that forum rather than watch 4 more powerpoint
slide shows about "someone else's fortunes." Not a slam against some of
the previous presenters, but these type of presentations would be better
served just as well with pictures and text on a web site (and I could save
it for presentation at a club meeting!)
Open discussion is always good for the soul, and we dont do it in
person enough. I bet would make for one helluva forum.
Thanks for the soapbox-
W4WS Contest Crew
On Tue, 6 Mar 2001, Tree N6TR wrote:
> Congrats to K1DG and N2MG on their ability to discuss this in
> an open forum. This is a great example of sportsmanship and
> Because of this - the facts are not in dispute. Although, I
> wonder about the 45 seconds - as that is a VERY LONG TIME.
> However, we all know K1AR is a lid and doesn't know how to use
> two radios, so maybe it is accurate.
> I am sure that when most of us are tuning the band - looking
> for a clear frequency, there is a certain process that we go
> through. It probably involves slowly tuning and listening to
> potential clear spots for a few seconds - and then either trying
> a CQ or two (K3ZO method) or asking if the frequency is in use.
> As you establish yourself, by calling more uncontested CQs, or
> putting some QSOs in the log, you will become relunctant to
> give up the frequency without some resistance. You might
> demonstrate this resistance just by continuing to CQ and
> work guys - or perhaps you will ask, or tell, the other
> person to move. It depends on your personality and how much
> sleep you have had in the contest. Frequency rage probably
> occurs more on Sunday.
> If the SO2R, SO1R or even SO4R guy doesn't vacate his frequency
> for more than the time a typical exchange, it is unlikely that
> anyone will challenge him.
> However, 45 seconds is a pretty long time to expect your frequency
> to still be there - without having to fight to get it back. If
> you are in W1 land, and someone else not in W1 land is on your
> frequency when you come back - it will probably be a pretty short
> QRM happens - it is the nature of the contest. How you deal with
> it is a big part of the game. It doesn't sound pretty when someone
> says that they are going to stay on a frequency "because they can",
> but that is the truth.
> If N6TR/7 finds a clear frequency on 10 SSB, works a couple of
> Europeans and then K1AR shows up acting like he owns the
> frequency, N6TR will move up the band where he belongs.
> Next November when W5WMU is looking for a frequency on 40 meters
> in the SS CW, he will listen carefully for a clear frequency -
> listen to it for about 10 seconds - try a quick CQ and if nobody
> challenges him, he will send a longer CQ and then start putting
> guys in the log. If K1AR comes by after two QSOs and starts sending
> CQs - he probably won't have much luck.
> Different contest - differnet propagation - different result.
> Tree N6TR/7
> PS: When I call K1AR a lid - I do so with the greatest of respect.
> Once you have attained a certain level of greatness, being referred
> to as a lid is a compliment. I just hope I can become as big of a
> lid as he is someday. Maybe with enough practice...
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