Yes, and the fact of the matter is that the packet
spotting most likely has the effect of increasing
overall participation - a benefit to both the sponsor
and to contest stations that are competitive. I
probably worked not an insignificant number of
stations during this past weekend that I would not
otherwise had worked had I not been spotted by other
stations. I could certainly tell when I was spotted
and I actually commented on it on the air to which I
heard several laughs...
73 Rich NN3W
--- Original Message ---
From: "David Robbins K1TTT" <k1ttt@arrl.net>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] WW SSB - the corruptive
influence of packet
>Trying to ask node sysops to shut down during a
contest would be a futile
>effort. The spotting network was designed and
constructed by and for
>contesters and will not shutdown just because someone
thinks they want a
>contest without it. you can suggest this all you
want, but it just ain't
>going to happen.
>
>
>David Robbins K1TTT
>e-mail: mailto:k1ttt@arrl.net
>web: http://www.k1ttt.net
>AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com [mailto:cq-
contest-
>> bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of N7MAL
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 23:22
>> To: Bill Parry; cq-contest@contesting.com
>> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] WW SSB - the corruptive
influence of packet
>>
>> And therein is the problem. You, and others,
said: ""Outlawing packet
>> tomorrow would not
>> have the impact that many might hope. We have large
numbers of stations
>> that
>> are not entering the contest but just hoping to
work a few new
>> countries.""
>>
>> How do you know? Why not give it a try? Voluntarily
ask all the nodes to
>> shut down during CQWWCW. My prediction is the only
loser will be the
>> sponsor because a majority of the scores will be
down. Contesting without
>> a crutch, what an intriguing concept.
>> Again I ask why not give it a try?
>>
>>
>> MAL N7MAL
>> BULLHEAD CITY, AZ
>> http://www.ctaz.com/~suzyq/N7mal.htm
>> http://geocities.com/n7mal/
>> Don't worry about the world coming to an end today.
>> It's already tomorrow in Australia
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Bill Parry
>> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 0:10
>> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] WW SSB - the corruptive
influence of packet
>>
>>
>> Folks,
>>
>> I realize that packet causes lots of problems in
contests but it is not
>> the
>> cause of all evil in contesting. There have been
lots of stations that
>> identify infrequently for years...certainly
before packet was in common
>> use.
>>
>> It is really easy to blame the things you don't
like for the all the
>> foolishness we hear in the contests. Outlawing
packet tomorrow would not
>> have the impact that many might hope. We have
large numbers of stations
>> that
>> are not entering the contest but just hoping to
work a few new
>> countries.
>> (We hope lots and lots of these stations.) They
will continue to use
>> packet
>> and cause whatever negative consequences that
result.
>>
>> Considering the large numbers of Multi's,
assisted stations and stations
>> that don't enter the contests, the numbers of S/O
stations improperly
>> using
>> packet is probably a pretty small percentage.
This isn't to say that
>> what
>> they are doing is right. It is not. I just think
that the number is
>> pretty
>> small considering all the "smoke and fire" that
this topic has
>> generated.
>>
>> Hopefully, any change in the contest rules will
be well-considered.
>> Changes
>> can have both positive and negative consequences.
I sure hope that we
>> don't
>> make the rules so "pristine" that it's no fun
anymore.
>>
>> Bill, W5VX
>>
>>
>>
>> >
>> >The really annoying thing I found this weekend
were the stations
>> >who were only identifying every 5 or 10 minutes
because they
>> >had a steady diet of packet assisted stations
feeding their pileups
>> >who knew their callsign a priori. As a single-op
unassisted, it's a
>> >royal PITA when you are trying to make the most
of your operating
>> >time to have to sit on a frequency for 5 or 10
minutes listening to a
>> >huge pileup and wondering if you really need
that station for a
>> >multiplier because he won't identify.
>> >
>> >Packet can be fun if your just chasing DX, so I
won't rain on
>> >packet user's parade (sometimes I am a packet
user), but I just
>> >wish that the rare DX in the contests wouldn't
assume that we
>> >are all using it all the time. Send your call
each QSO like
>> >ZD8Z/N6TJ does.
>> >
>> >73 de Mike,
W4EF...................................................
..
>> >
>> >
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