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Re: [CQ-Contest] Real-time score collection

To: "'Ken Wolff'" <ken@k1ea.com>, "'Jim Idelson'" <k1ir@designet.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Real-time score collection
From: "David Robbins K1TTT" <k1ttt@arrl.net>
Reply-to: k1ttt@arrl.net
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 18:29:28 -0000
List-post: <mailto:cq-contest@contesting.com>
There is already a system like this in use in Europe I think just for some
of the regional vhf contests. And as you can guess it causes problems for
the rest of the world when they don't filter out the changed pc messages
before they get to different node types.  i.e. we end up seeing qso by qso
logs and inter-station chat as a/full messages.

This would seem to be a less than satisfactory method of collecting scores
from around the world... though it might be useful to provide gateways from
local nodes to the score web site.  A special announce like 'a/scores class=
x qso=x mult=x score=x' could be used and then collected by someone and
packaged into the xml for posting.  It might also be done as a talk to a
specific call if the special announce isn't handled well by some nodes.  As
long as these don't forward around the world like the European ones do at
times it should be easy enough to implement.  If its done as a talk all the
user would have to do is find the local score gateway call and tell their
logger who to 'talk' to for posting the score.

Getting results back is a bigger problem.  Not knowing how big the leader
list might be could make it a problem... but the collection program could
periodically query the board, find the user's who have posted scores in it
and then send a talk back to the user with updates... no changes to cluster
software needed.

The ultimate way of course is for the user to have direct internet access
and post/read directly, but for those with limited or no internet capability
this might help out.

David Robbins K1TTT
e-mail: mailto:k1ttt@arrl.net
web: http://www.k1ttt.net
AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ken Wolff [mailto:ken@k1ea.com]
> Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 16:29
> To: Jim Idelson
> Cc: CQ-Contest Post; David Robbins; Bruce Horn; Gerry Hull; YCCC
> Subject: Re: Real-time score collection
>  From my end, this is easy. Getting authors of the various PacketCluster
> replacement packages to do something together is another stroy.
> - Ken
> Jim Idelson wrote:
> >I was thinking about the process of collecting and displaying contest
> scores in
> >real-time, and came up with an idea I thought I'd share with you. This
> would
> >augment - not replace - the current web-based proposals being implemented
> by
> >Bruce, Dave and others. It's pretty simple:
> >
> >Use the existing packet/telnet network.
> >
> >What's required:
> >- Packet cluster software needs to implement a few new commands and have
> access
> >to the contest scores database
> >- Contest software needs to generate a score message that goes out over
> >packet/telnet every so often.
> >- Contest software needs to be able to retrieve and show leaderboard
> info.
> >
> >Leaderboard information would be submitted and retrieved over the
> packet/telnet
> >connection
> >
> >set/contest K1IR ARRLDXCW MS          [call, contest, category] - defines
> what
> >contest I am in
> >set/score ARRLDXCW MS 10                [contest, category, leaderboard
> update
> >interval (minutes)] - lets the system know what leaderboard I want to
> track
> >score K1IR 555 100 666,777                [call, QSOs, mults, score] -
> uploads
> >my current score
> >sh/score ARRLDXCW MS                      [contest, category] - request
> for a
> >filtered leaderboard display
> >
> >Of course, none of these messages are broadcast to other users. Part of
> the
> >reasoning behind this idea is to reduce the complexity of submitting
> scores and
> >viewing leaderboards from DOS-based software. This implementation would
> utilize
> >packet capabilities already part of CT, TR, etc.
> >
> >73,
> >
> >Jim Idelson K1IR
> >email    k1ir at designet.com
> >web    http://www.k1ir.com
> >
> >
> >
> >

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