On Mon, 14 Aug 2006 firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
> here is the new rule:
> 5. The presentation in any public forum of logs or other representations
> of station operation showing details of station activity or other
> information from which all essential QSO elements (time, date, band, mode
> and callsign) for individual contacts can be derived creates a question as
> to the integrity of the claimed QSOs with that station during the period
> encompassed by the log. Presentation of such information in any public
> forum by the station operator, operators or associated parties is not
> allowed and may be considered sufficient reason to deny ARRL award credit
> for contacts with any station for which such presentations have been made.
> Persistent violation of this provision may result in disqualification from
> the DXCC program.
> this makes no sense at all... How does confirming that you actually have
> a contact in the log before actually sending for a card, or submitting to
> LOTW threaten the qsl process?? doesn't the qso have to show in both logs
> (on lotw), or the manager has to find the requested qso in the log to get
> back a card anyway?? how does your knowing that you actually got logged
> affect that?
I think we went over this, maybe it wasn't here but on a DX group.
If ALL the QSO info is available via internet or whatever, someone could
claim a busted call and get a card. Or someone with a legitimate busted
call could end up losing the QSO because the owner of the busted call got
If at least some info about the QSO is known only to the QSL'er and the
person who is/isn't in the log, the first situation above isn't likely to
happen unless the other station actually heard you work them, and the
second can be remedied.
An example of this was a DXpedition I worked several years ago. I had
about 7 QSO's in their log but my 40m CW QSO was missing. I suspected
they busted it and guessed at the busted call. That call showed up in
their log search engine with only one QSO - on 40 CW.
I sent another card to the manager for the missing QSO and explaining I
thought the call was busted as W9##. He said all my QSO info was correct
but just wanted to double-check with the station whose call was in the
log. That person informed the manager he wasn't even a DX'er, so I got
the card for the missing QSO.
But had he said otherwise, he'd have had to supply the QSL manager with
the date and time.
73, Zack W9SZ
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