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Re: [CQ-Contest] ARRL says no to opening logs...

To: "CQ-Contest" <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] ARRL says no to opening logs...
From: "Mike McCarthy, W1NR" <lists@w1nr.net>
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 14:22:34 -0400
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It says "All essential elements".  In other words, publishing enough 
information to fix a "busted" or incomplete QSO so you can fill out your QSL 
card and get credit for a QSO that is questionable is not allowed.  This is 
why the big dxpeditions allow you to query the log and report minimal 
information back.  Just enough to see if you are in the log, but not enough 
info for you to claim the QSO if the call is busted or you could not hear 
the report come back.  I see nothing wrong with that and in fact fully 
endorse it.  Wouldn't it also be against the rules to call the guy on the 
phone and ask him what he has in the log to confirm the QSL info with you 
before you send a card?

Mike, W1NR

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <k1ttt@arrl.net>
To: "CQ-Contest" <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Monday, August 14, 2006 1:16 PM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] ARRL says no to opening logs...

> here is the new rule:
> 5. The presentation in any public forum of logs or other representations
> of station operation showing details of station activity or other
> information from which all essential QSO elements (time, date, band, mode
> and callsign) for individual contacts can be derived creates a question as
> to the integrity of the claimed QSOs with that station during the period
> encompassed by the log. Presentation of such information in any public
> forum by the station operator, operators or associated parties is not
> allowed and may be considered sufficient reason to deny ARRL award credit
> for contacts with any station for which such presentations have been made.
> Persistent violation of this provision may result in disqualification from
> the DXCC program.
> this makes no sense at all...  How does confirming that you actually have
> a contact in the log before actually sending for a card, or submitting to
> LOTW threaten the qsl process??  doesn't the qso have to show in both logs
> (on lotw), or the manager has to find the requested qso in the log to get
> back a card anyway??  how does your knowing that you actually got logged
> affect that?
> Personally, this is one of the many reasons i refuse to bother with DXCC
> and many of the other awards programs that are controlled by crazy sets of
> rules that can be changed on the whim of some administrator.  Maybe i'll
> just publish all my logs and be done with it, no more dxcc for me or
> anyone trying to claim a contact with me!!

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