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Re: [CQ-Contest] Real Time Scoreboards

To: Robert Chudek - KØRC <k0rc@pclink.com>,<cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Real Time Scoreboards
From: Guy Molinari <guy_molinari@hotmail.com>
Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 04:43:47 +0000
List-post: <mailto:cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sorry Robert, my mistake.   I was assuming that the log detail would be 
exposed.   I would definately participate in this type of system as well as 
73 - Guy, N7ZG

From: k0rc@citlink.netTo: cq-contest@contesting.comCC: 
guy_molinari@hotmail.comSubject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Real Time ScoreboardsDate: 
Sat, 21 Oct 2006 14:16:53 -0500

Please help me understand what you mean in your second sentence below.
My concept is logs would be submitted and processed by the contest sponser but 
only summary sheet information would be posted back to the internet for all to 
I don't know how you could correct your log from this limited data.
73 de Bob - KØRC in MN
------------------------------Message: 3Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 15:06:57 
+0000From: Guy Molinari <guy_molinari@hotmail.com>Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] 
Real Time ScoreboardsTo: "Vladimir V. Sidorov" 
<vs_otw@rogers.com>,<cq-contest@contesting.com>, <live@cqww.com>Message-ID: 
<BAY104-W8AB80834CEC591EC86E3DE8020@phx.gbl>Content-Type: text/plain; 
charset="iso-8859-1"I this is an interesting idea Vlad.   The problem would be 
that cheaters would find and catch logging errors posted by others before 
submitting theirs.   The whole process would become an online auction of sorts. 
 ;-).   I think if the log deadline were shortened considerably, again this is 
the 21st century right?   This would alienate the guys sending in paper logs 
though (I think).   One way to solve this might be to shorten the log deadline. 
  Say you have 2 hours (arbitrary number) to submit for consideration and then 
the online results can be viewed subject to adjudication.    Would this be a 
problem for the casual op?   The casual guys are bread and butter right? 
<soapbox mode on>I dunno.  IMHO, this is radio contesting not a general 
technology competition.  I'm a relatively younger newcomer who is a software 
engineer by trade.   I say this because I'm not afraid of computer 
technologies, the Internet, progress, etc.   I think these kind of changes have 
to be carefully considered.   We cant just say demagogically, "You are holding 
up progress".</soapbox mod off> I'm just excited to play radio over the coming 
weeks! 73 - Guy, N7ZG> From: vs_otw@rogers.com> To: cq-contest@contesting.com; 
live@cqww.com> Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 08:10:28 -0500> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] 
Real Time Scoreboards> > Please kindly consider the 2 following ideas.> > --- 
Would't it be better just to publish full contest results in 1-2 months > after 
it's over? Virtually the interest to the online scores has come (IMO) > because 
people is tired to see results of the contest only just before the > NEXT 
YEAR'S one, when all emotions calmed down and all memories went > South...> 
Somehow RSGB has recently released (on a perfect way BTW) results of the > IOTA 
contest which took place less than 3 months ago...> > The CQ Contest Commitee 
does realize that basic (OK, claimed) results can be > seen/traced even ONLINE 
nowaydays, during the contest itself. Then why the > Commitee still needs 11 
months to publish official results???> It's the 21st Century, gentlemen!> > > 
--- And another idea, never seen anywhere so far. Actually, its a kind o f > 
revolution, eventually, not more not less...> > Why don't you consider the LOG 
CHECKING PROCESS traceable online?> I mean, with every log arriving to you, 
more and more logs will be checked > vs. eachother and you publish the results 
online. Like, there are 5 logs > arrived, they are cross-checked and the finner 
so far is XXX. Then there > come 100 more logs, and the winner turns to be YYY 
at this stage...> I am pretty sure, people will watch your site non-stop or at 
least will jump > into that very often. It will be such a show!... A real show. 
Nobody will > need 3830 or online scores amymore (is it good or bad, I don't 
know), > because the REAL show begins right after the contest...> It can be 
even made widely public, offered to TV or so to broadcast it every > a few 
hours or days...> > How about that?> > > Thanks and 73,> > Vladimir VE3IAE - 
EU1SA> > ---> > > > >> >> > Dear Fellow Contester,> >> > The CQ WW Contest 
Committee is discussing whether use of real-time> > c ontest scoreboards is 
likely to convey information about band> > openings and profitable tactics to 
an extent that participants using> > the scoreboards should be categorized as 
assisted. The 2006 CQ WW contest> > rules have already been published and they 
will govern the 2006 contests.> >> > We welcome your comments on this, and 
suggest the possibility of also> > sending the comments to the CQ-Contest 
reflector so that others can> > see them and possibly follow up.> >> > Comments 
can be sent to live@cqww.com> >> >> > 73> > Bob, K3EST> > CQ WW Director> > For 
the CQ WW Committee> > _______________________________________________> > 
CQ-Contest mailing list> > CQ-Contest@contesting.com> > 
http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest> > > > 
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