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Re: [CQ-Contest] SSB in CW band

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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] SSB in CW band
From: Robert Chudek - KØRC <k0rc@citlink.net>
Reply-to: Robert Chudek - KØRC <k0rc@pclink.com>
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 16:44:16 -0600
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Let me carry this discussion to the ultimate extreme. As Joe - W4TV mentions, 
bandplans are effective during "normal" activities. Contesting is an extreme 
sport, far from "normal" in any sense of the definition.

I'll show you another extreme. It's a question direct from the FCC General 
Class License testing pool:

G2C06 (C)
During a disaster in the US, what frequencies may be used to obtain assistance?

A. Only frequencies in the 80-meter band

B. Only frequencies in the 40-meter band

C. Any frequency

D. Any United Nations approved frequency

The correct answer is "C"  Any frequency!

So in this extreme case, the FCC recognizes all bets are off, including 
transmitting outside the amateur radio bands.

So it's obvious to me that the radiosport of contesting pushes bandplans to the 
extreme. I doubt we will ever see regulatory "contesting" bandplans from either 
the contest sponsors or the FCC. But I wouldn't push my luck going outside the 
ham bands... contesting isn't quite that extreme... yet.

73 de Bob - KØRC in MN


Message: 6
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 09:59:12 -0500
From: "Joe Subich, W4TV" <w4tv@subich.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] SSB in CW band
To: "'Ron Notarius W3WN'" <wn3vaw@verizon.net>,
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The rest of this debate is really pointless but this needs a 

> What is really unfortunate is that the voluntary band plans 
> were developed by amateurs in other countries as guidelines 
> so as to avoid unneeded governmental regulation.  What you are 
> saying is that since there's no regulation, you can ignore the 
> band plan.  Not only do you thus invite chaos and further 
> regulation or re-regulation, but (IMHO) you thus choose not to
> use good amateur practices.

The voluntary bandplans are all based on "normal conditions" and 
"should."  Most of them contains language that says in effect 
these arrangements are flexible and are expected to change as 
needed to reflect conditions.  The bandplans are and always have 
been an effort by those in much of the rest of the world to have 
their cake an eat it too - to have the opportunity to avoid QRM 
from US stations while protecting their private playgrounds. 

Until allocations are harmonized on a global basis and separation 
is enforced in regulation the problem will continue to exist no 
matter how often this topic is raised.  There will always be one 
more European, Canadian or South American who feels "just a couple 
KHz lower" is OK ... and there will always be the American who 
feels "it won't hurt if I listen just below the QRM."  That is 
the problem with "voluntary band plans" - they work when pressures 
on the resources are relatively modest but they fall apart with 
the extreme overcrowding during a contest.  

To go back to your roads analogy ... have you never noticed that 
once the freeways become clogged (or blocked by an accident) all 
the surrounding "surface streets" also become very crowded as 
the through traffic begins to seek alternate routes to avoid the 

> Must ethics be legislated to be self-enforced?

I don't see this as a matter of ethics.  I've been an advocate of 
regulatory solutions for over 25 years.  I was one of the first 
to propose regulatory separation of CW/SSB on 160 meters back in 
1979.  Bandplans don't work on 160 any more than they work on 40 
and even though the Commission has made periodic enforcement 
efforts.  I'm sure that it will be impossible to find a place to 
make a CW contact in the "CW band" between 1825 and 1840 during 
the ARRL 160 meter contest or the CQ 160 SSB contest but nobody 
talks about that bandplan. 

> Have you ever been trampled on by people participating in a 
> contest that you're not?

No.  I know enough to avoid the "contest mode" or the "contest 
bands" during  contest.  If I want to operate outside the 
contest, I will use another mode, or better yet, operate on 
30, 17 or 12 meters. 

> And with that, I will let your words speak for themselves.

That's fine ... as long as allocations are not globally harmonized, 
bandlans are "advisory" and dynamic, this will continue to happen. 
The only way to "solve the problem" is to eliminate the cause (the 
uneven allocations) and the opportunity (the dynamic nature of the 
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