Hi Randy:
I have a high degree of admiration for what you are doing.
I´m defending at the CQWW Advisory Committee the open log to the Contest
Community a a full record of the log to be able to play for records and top
5.
The 2006 rules already request publication of the logs.
That is a good progress.
73
Oms
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De: cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com
[mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com]Em nome de Randy Thompson
Enviada em: quinta-feira, 23 de novembro de 2006 17:58
Para: k3bu@optonline.net; cq-contest@contesting.com
Assunto: Re: [CQ-Contest] Live Audio - K5ZD for CQ WW CW
How is audio streaming soliciting contacts? There is no request for people
to listen or work me. I am not giving out frequency.
It is a cool use of technology.
By the way, I will be posting my score to the getscores.org scoreboard this
weekend too.
If the CQWW Committee rules that it is against the rules, then I will stop
doing both.
And Yuri, enjoy the contest!
Randy, K5ZD
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of
> k3bu@optonline.net
> Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 5:44 PM
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Live Audio - K5ZD for CQ WW CW
>
>
> Randy K5ZD wrote:
>
> > The non-amateur means rule applies only during the contest. You can
> > take out network TV adverts before the contest announcing your
> > operation if you want.
> >
>
> Streaming audio or video IS DURING the contest and soliciting
> stations to "work me" (and hear yourself - reward).
> Additional "advertising" is before the contest - making it
> known "I will be on, streaming.
>
> Why did CQ WW CC asked about the opinions about the real time
> score board? That pales in comparison to "work me - you can
> hear yourself" real time. We should get CQ WW CC ruling on
> this, before everybody starts "screaming" live whatever. As
> it stands now, it is a matter for disqualification according to rules:
>
> >>The use by an entrant of any non-amateur means such as telephones,
> >>telegrams,
> internet, or the use of packet to SOLICIT contacts during the
> contest is unsportsmanlike and the entry is subject to
> disqualification. Action and decisions of the CQ WW Contest
> Committee are official and final.<<
>
>
>
> > As for the motivation to work one station over another,
> there are many
> > elements of that. Some guys only work rare stations. Does
> that make it
> > unfair to be rare? Some guys only work their friends. Or
> the loudest
> > signals. Is it unfair to be well known or loud?
> >
>
> Motivation and solicitation by non-amateur means as outlined
> in the rules are two, way different things.
>
> > Randy, K5ZD
> >
>
> Call me Luddite or old fashioned, but trying to follow the
> spirit and meaning of rules.
> Rather than having streaming audio or video I would suggest
> that having real logs published on the web (after the contest
> log submission deadline) would be much better motivation and
> education for little pistols and big guns. Another big plus -
> deterrent to blatant cheaters by having logs available for
> scrutiny by competition.
>
> (OK, what is the REAL reason for streaming? Demonstrate how
> wonderful (good looking) or magnificent operator one is? In
> my book, any real life, anything, during the contest is
> distraction to serious contesters. If one wants to lure
> little pistols and bystanders, than I can see the benefit
> (solicitation).
>
> Just this OF opinion.
>
> Yuri, K3BU
>
> Let's have a log deadline 7 days after the contest, 21 days
> process the logs and post rough results and logs, another 14
> days for corrections etc. and publish final results. That
> would be progress and encouragement to participate. Now we
> are streaming real time wannabe stars and waiting 9 months
> for the birth of the results. Welcome to 21 century and computer age!
>
>
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