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Re: [CQ-Contest] NIL = Not In Log

To: Mark Beckwith <n5ot@n5ot.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] NIL = Not In Log
From: Zack Widup <w9sz@prairienet.org>
Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 08:41:50 -0600 (CST)
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When the band becomes really packed, I always send the callsign of the 
station I'm replying to before I send my call (well, I actually do it all 
the time in SS anyway).  Alas, others don't all do that.

Sometimes when I'm doing S&P, I'll call one station in between two others 
and have both on either side come back to me. It gets really confusing.

I have ONE QSO I questioned in my mind because I CQ'ed and heard an answer 
up about 400 Hz. I responded and he came back without sending the callsign 
of who he was working.  The timing was right so I logged it.  But it still 
could've been someone else he was working.

I suppose the log checking will tell ...

73, Zack W9SZ

On Fri, 9 Nov 2007, Mark Beckwith wrote:

> Hello contest operators,
>
> Time for a reminder post about NILs. (NIL = Not In Log).  I had the sad 
> experience in the SS contest of answering a CQ and having the op tell me we 
> had worked before.  Now to start with I try not to call stations I've already 
> worked.  That wouldn't make any sense.  In this case I had checked to see if 
> I had worked him before I called him, and he was not in my log.
>
> Him: CQ SS from K4-Blah-Blah.
> Me: N5OT
> Him: N5OT worked before QRZ contest.
> Me: You're not in my log.
> Him: Check your number 334 QRZ contest.
> Me: Okay....Nope, that's not you.
> Him: Well, I was your number 334 QRZ contest.
> Me: That's not what I have.
> Him: Sorry, worked before, QRZ contest.
>
> Interesting.  I suppose if my number 334 was K4-BLUE-Blah then maybe I'd 
> consider I must have copied his call wrong and maybe I'd change my log to say 
> K4-BLAH-blah.  But my number 334 was W9Three-Letter-Something - obviously 
> K4-Blah-Blah only *thinks* I worked him, but really I didn't. Either  I was 
> working someone else and for whatever reason he didn't realize it, or he 
> worked someone else and copied their call as N5OT.  That happens.
>
> The sad thing is, I tried to have a valid contest QSO with him which would 
> have benefited us both, but because he doesn't understand about this stuff, 
> now I don't get the QSO and I've wasted more time than it would have taken to 
> just trade exchanges and move on.  Now K4-Blah-Blah will not get the QSO with 
> me he could have, AND he'll get both a NIL and also a penalty.
>
> So the moral of the story is "don't be like K4-Blah-Blah, when someone says 
> you're not in their log, you better just work them again and be done with 
> it."  It would have taken less time than the above on-air dialogue.
>
> So Tree, what is the right thing for K4-Blah-Blah do with his #334? Take it 
> out of the log?  Leave it in?  Did he perhaps work some other OT but log him 
> as me?
>
> Mark, N5OT
>
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