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Re: [CQ-Contest] Recording your CQ WW CW contest

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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Recording your CQ WW CW contest
From: "Ron Notarius W3WN" <wn3vaw@verizon.net>
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 01:00:09 -0500
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You say there's "no reason not to require serious contesters" to record?

NO.  This crosses a line.  This goes too far.  This is not a matter of
technology, it's a matter of trust.

To try and catch a minority of cheaters, you presume us all to be dishonest
unless we prove otherwise?

I don't care if someone gives me the recording system.  It tells me that I
am presumed dishonest.  It tells me I am presumed guilty until proven
innocent.  I take afront at such an assertion.

And to think that I got a private email from someone on this list telling me
"oh c'mon, you know they're just kidding."


-----Original Message-----
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 17:08:12 -0500
From: Pete Smith <n4zr@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Recording your CQ WW CW contest
To: cq-contest@contesting.com

You can buy a 2GB USB flash drive for $15, and Sagebrush Software sells
very useful recording software that will timestamp your audio files for
under $30.  No doubt, there is freeware out there too.  A stereo MP3
recording of an entire 48-hour contest will go on a CD.

There's simply no reason not to require serious contenders for the top ten
boxes to record their efforts.  Some might even buy several flash drives,
just in case.

It is also becoming pretty cost-effective to record the bottom 70-80 KHz of
a contest band, for an entire 48-hour contest.  The receivers are dirt
cheap (see SoftRock), the software is free (see Rocky), and a 160 GB hard
drive (enough to record an entire 48-hour contest) is around $70.  There's
no reason not to set up a network of monitoring stations (1 or 2 per
continent per band) run by disinterested volunteers.  Not knowing whether
you would be caught would be a powerful deterrent, IMO, particularly if the
punishment were stiff and public.

73, Pete N4ZR

At 09:39 AM 12/14/2007, George Fremin III wrote:

>I think recording contests can be useful.  It is fairly easy
>to do - I have been doing it for years.  I almost never go
>back and listen to much or any of the recordings of my
>contests.  I already heard it all once.
>Recordings can be useful.
>- It is fun and educational to listen to someone else do the contest.
>- It is fun to go back and hear some fast hour or some really neat contact.
>- It is cool to listen to some recording that was made years ago:
>   http://www.kkn.net/~k5tr/audio/n6aa/w6dgh-1973-ssb-ss-1st-hour.mp3
>   http://www.kkn.net/~k5tr/audio/n6aa/
>- Having a recording was very useful to me one time when
>   jamming occurred on the air.
>And I have nothing to hide in my operating - I am more than happy
>to share any recordings, logs and LCR/UBN reports with anyone.
>George Fremin III - K5TR
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