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Re: [CQ-Contest] FW: Getscores.org Changes/Improvements.

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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] FW: Getscores.org Changes/Improvements.
From: "David Robbins K1TTT" <k1ttt@arrl.net>
Reply-to: k1ttt@arrl.net
Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 13:46:48 +0000
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So you wouldn't watch... that's ok, I'm not interested in you watching.

Its not in the spirit of unassisted contesting, that is something for the
contest organizers to decide.  But even if they do decide that unassisted
s/o can't watch the scores, that leaves plenty of others.

You don't think its an advantage for cheaters, that's good... so the
question of assisted/unassisted is moot then anyway.

So it comes down to a question of motivation... so you are afraid that you
may demotivate others because your are kicking their butts???  I haven't
seen that here, and our collective butts get kicked all the time!  So why
not contribute and give those who are motivated by seeing big scores have a
chance to learn from your excellent performance???


David Robbins K1TTT
e-mail: mailto:k1ttt@arrl.net
web: http://www.k1ttt.net
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com [mailto:cq-contest-
> bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Edward
> Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 11:36
> To: 'Felipe J Hernandez'; cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] FW: Getscores.org Changes/Improvements.
> 
> Its not because of fear Felipe.  And not because I would be watching it.
> In my opinion, its not in the spirit of unassisted contesting.
> 
> I am sure that the little/medium guys don't need my score to help them
> be motivated.  Heck, if I am kicking butt, it might even de-motivate
> them.
> 
> In any case, I don't think its enough of an advantage that I am
> concerned about it if others are using it but claiming unassisted.  The
> fact that I am not and could win the category, throws into question the
> overall value for anyone truly competing for the win.
> 
> Thanks for the comments.
> 
> Ed  N1UR
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Felipe J Hernandez [mailto:fhdez@vox-tel.com]
> Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 6:20 AM
> To: sawyered@earthlink.net; cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] FW: Getscores.org Changes/Improvements.
> 
> I think that once you find out on get scores that your rival got an
> sporadic opening.. You already lost your "sporadic opportunity" on that
> band.. I think like others that if you are paying too much attention to
> the scores you are losing your game because you dont have a clear
> strategy or goals, and you know that will never make you win.
> 
> On the other hand this tool enhances friendly competition and helps many
> operators that dont have the winning setups
> to engage in competition with "immediate gratification"
> this is spelled fun for the little/medium  guys in disadvantaged
> locations that still want to have some kind of competition spirit and
> isnt this what we want for the hobby?
> 
> If a top contestor doesnt want to support the scores plus breakdown
> because of fear... then I think he doesnt have the winning attitude and
> he probably wont win.
> 
> 
> Felipe
> NP4Z
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Edward <mailto:sawyered@earthlink.net>
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 9:30 PM
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] FW: Getscores.org Changes/Improvements.
> 
> As a multiple time winner of the USA SOAB LP categories in ARRL DX,
> CQWW, and WPX contests, I personally will never connect to
> Getscores.org.
> 
> I personally believe that ONE of the factors that impacted my second
> place finish in 2005 of ARRL DX CW was missing a 10M E opening to EU
> which WOULD NOT have been predicted in the prop sites and which would
> have immediately caused me to move had I known about it.
> 
> Even the top level score would have been enough to flag me at the time
> since all the 10M mults would have impacted the score to know that
> "something was up" and at 15Z, there aren't too many places to look.
> 
> I don't have an issue with those that do.  It's a personal decision for
> me.  Just, don't break out the champagne if you think you've won SOAB LP
> in a major after 0000Z on Getscores.  I usually play to win.  Don't
> always win, but you can't count me out.
> 
> Ed  N1UR  See ya'all in ARRL DX CW in a few weeks.
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