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Re: [CQ-Contest] Chatgate

To: Tree <tree@kkn.net>, cq-contest@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Chatgate
From: Julius Fazekas <phriendly1@yahoo.com>
Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 03:32:13 -0800 (PST)
List-post: <mailto:cq-contest@contesting.com>
I, for one, commend both you and ES5TV for taking the
high road based on your understanding of the rules and
spirit of the competition.

There's a strong sense that things need to be improved
in our corner of the hobby.

It's nice to see the passion and dedication displayed
recently versus the continual verbal war on some of
these topics.

73,
Julius
n2wn


--- Tree <tree@kkn.net> wrote:

> 
> Welcome to "chatgate".
> 
> During the course of the discussion surrounding the
> events that occurred
> on the ON4AST chat page during the CQ 160 - I have
> had time to better 
> reflect on my own actions.  I have come to the
> conclusion that while what
> I did might not rise to same level as some of the
> other abuse - some of my
> actions could be perceived as crossing over a line
> that I would rather not
> be seen doing.
> 
> To be specific - I asked JH4IFF to give me a signal
> report on my CQ frequency:
> 
> 2008-01-27 09:52:36Z   N6TR Tree   Is my signal
> making it to Japan? 1812.6 / K7RAT
> 
> I suspected that my signal was very weak since I
> wasn't working hardly anyone
> at that time - and I knew Mitsu has a pretty small
> signal on 160 and he 
> wasn't likely to be appearing in my log.  However,
> looking back, I now wish
> I had not done this.  
> 
> Here is my log segment around that time:
> 
> 160CW  27-Jan-08 09:50 1045  YV1DIG         599  599
> YV             YV      10
> 160CW  27-Jan-08 10:03 1046  WA4BUE         599  599
> Va                      2
> 160CW  27-Jan-08 10:05 1047  K6JEY          599  599
> Ca                      2
> 160CW  27-Jan-08 10:18 1048  K9WJU          599  599
> In                      2
> 160CW  27-Jan-08 10:22 1049  W1DEO          599  599
> Me                      2
> 160CW  27-Jan-08 10:27 1050  W7WA           599  599
> Wa                      2
> 160CW  27-Jan-08 10:30 1051  JA9CSE         599  599
> JA                     10
> 160CW  27-Jan-08 10:35 1052  W7SX           599  599
> Or                      2
> 160CW  27-Jan-08 10:39 1053  WB3HLH         599  599
> Md                      2
> 160CW  27-Jan-08 10:43 1054  WA4GLH         599  599
> Tn                      2
> 160CW  27-Jan-08 10:44 1055  W2HTI          599  599
> Nc                      2
> 160CW  27-Jan-08 10:44 1056  K4AMC          599  599
> Tn                      2
> 160CW  27-Jan-08 10:45 1057  K1BG           599  599
> Ma                      2
> 160CW  27-Jan-08 10:46 1058  WA3AFS         599  599
> Ny                      2
> 160CW  27-Jan-08 10:49 1059  W8GP           599  599
> Mi                      2
> 160CW  27-Jan-08 10:58 1060  N3RN           599  599
> Pa                      2
> 160CW  27-Jan-08 10:58 1061  N3GJ           599  599
> Pa                      2
> 
> As can be seen - there was no resulting packet rush.
> 
> However, as was pointed out to me - this could be
> perceived as a self spot
> and therefore, I have decided to reclassify the
> K7RAT multi-single log as a 
> check log.  I do not believe self spotting is an
> appropriate thing for 
> competitors to be engaged in during a contest -
> regardless of what the 
> specific rules for that contest say - or what
> category I might be in.
> 
> Another interesting point.  The YV1DIG QSO was made
> after YV1DIG announced
> his frequency on the chat room.  I used that
> information to leave my CQ
> frequency long enough to work him.  I did not notify
> him that I would be 
> calling.  However, this raises an interesting point
> that I hadn't considered
> before...  is it wrong to take advantage of a self
> spot?  Obviously, you
> can't always know it is a self spot is someone is
> hidding their true identity.
> 
> With all of this attention currently focused on this
> situation, I hope 
> everyone will take this opportunity to think about
> how they feel about 
> the situation and how they want to operate contests
> in the furture.  For
> me, I will refrain from doing anything that could
> appear to be self spotting
> regardless of my intent in the future.
> 
> 73 Tree N6TR
> tree@kkn.net
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Julius Fazekas
N2WN
Elecraft K2/100 #3311
Elecraft K2/100 #4455
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