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Re: [CQ-Contest] Lightning strikes N5OT

To: "James Duffey" <JamesDuffey@comcast.net>, <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Lightning strikes N5OT
From: "N7mal" <n7mal@citlink.net>
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 04:20:26 -0000
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Well I guess I should have been much clearer. What I was referring to was 
John Doe who went cross town to Billy Bob's house to operate because Billy 
Bob has a much better station. But John Doe didn't use Billy Bob's call he 
used his own. I wasn't referring to anything like good ole Don.
Sorry for the confusion.
73


MAL
N7MAL
BULLHEAD CITY, AZ
http://www.n7mal.com
Everyone in the world is
entitled to be burdened
by my opinion


----- Original Message ----- 
From: James Duffey
To: cq-contest@contesting.com
Cc: James Duffey ; n7mal@citlink.net
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 4:12
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Lightning strikes N5OT


Mal - You wrote:

"I also have personal first hand knowledge of 4 different guys who
operated from locations other than where they submitted their log
entry. Again my feeling then and now is SO WHAT. The reason for "SO
WHAT" is 2 fold. First they worked the stations they submitted a log
for. Log checking pretty well determines what a guy works."

But log checking doesn't determine if the station was were it told the
stations it worked it was. So the stations get credit for a multiplier
they didn't actually work. So if someone was in AZ and told people
they were in NV, then the stations that worked him got credit for NV,
but didn't actually work NV. And if that was the only NV station they
worked, there score is artificially high due to the misrepresentation
of the station in AZ of his location. By telling people the station is
in one state when he is actually in another alters the results of
other entrants. And perhaps even the results of those who did not work
him by changing people's position in the standings. In some sense it
brings everyone who worked the station into the fraud.

And if someone needs NV, and spends some time trying to work the
station that is really is in AZ, but telling people that they are in
NV, then he has less time to work other stations. He suffers and
others he doesn't work suffer. It alters the desirability of people to
work that station. NV is usually more rare than AZ in a contest, so
that station is more attractive to work.

The "so what" is that sort of behavior alters the dynamics of the
contest; it can alter the results of the contest, and it affects
others without them knowing it, some positively, some negatively.

I think that any misrepresentation of a multiplier has an impact far
beyond that of the station committing the fraud. That impact may not
be major, but it very likely has an impact on someone other than the
perpetrator, and that is bad.

If everyone did this, or even a sizable fraction of entrants did this,
contesting would be a shambles and not have much meaning. I think that
is a good test to the so what question. If everyone did this, would
the impact on contesting be positive or negative?

There is some previous documented experience with this specious
activity, W9WNV, and that ended badly for not only him, but many
others as well. There is no reason to believe that similar behavior
today is acceptable.

That is the so what.  - Duffey
--
KK6MC
James Duffey
Cedar Crest NM








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