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Re: [CQ-Contest] SS Exchange sequence

To: "'Jim Smith'" <jimsmith@shaw.ca>, <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] SS Exchange sequence
From: "Sandy Taylor" <ve4xt@mts.net>
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 08:11:48 -0600
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Isn't it possible that by inserting an example...

W1AW 123 B NU1AW 71 CT

...in the rules, the League is specifying how the exchange should be sent?

That said, an object of the contest is not to practice sending and receiving
the NTS preamble.

73, Kelly
Ve4xt

-----Original Message-----
From: cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com
[mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Jim Smith
Sent: November-07-08 3:38 AM
To: cq-contest@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] SS Exchange sequence

Given that the SS exchange is based on the NTS message form preamble, 
then the correct order of the exchange elements is as shown in the 
rules.  However, I don't see any reference to this in the rules.

Maybe the rules should add as an object of the contest, "To practice the 
sending and receiving of the ARRL National Traffic System message form 
preamble."

73, Jim VE7FO

Ken Adams wrote:
> N5OT wrote:
> 
>> The rules say nothing about the order of the items to be exchanged.  If
you 
>> copied their call then it was obviously sent at some point.  Presumably
you 
>> would not have gotten as far as deleting the QSO if you didn't have their

>> call logged already.  The  ARRL may have a position on this.  Maybe we 
>> should ask "them" what "they" think before we get our knickers in a wad. 
> 
> 
> Mark is technically correct here, so we will address that before next 
> year.  However, the rules do describe the exchange in the preferred 
> order and the example is in the preferred (expected) order.
> 
> See http://www.arrl.org/contests/rules/2008/novss.html number 4.
> 
> The bottom line is that when someone sends you their exchange and omits 
> their callsign there is a "deer in the headlights moment" on the 
> receiving end.  At least that is what happened to me 4 times during SS 
> CW.  I fumbled around with the space bar and got things in the right 
> field.  Then again, I am an Okie and you need to keep things simple for
me.
> 
> It's much more efficient for sender and receiver if the sequence is used 
> as expected by 99.9% of the players.
> 
> And thanks to everyone who got on for CW ... that was a great turnout as 
> reflected in the scores !!!
> 
> 73, Ken K5KA
> Manager Sweepstakes Contest
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