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Re: [CQ-Contest] No US DX Only - ARRL DX

To: "'David Kopacz'" <david.kopacz@aspwebhosting.com>, "'CQ Contest'" <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] No US DX Only - ARRL DX
From: "W0MU Mike Fatchett" <w0mu@w0mu.com>
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 09:58:48 -0700
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So now we create scenarios why we should not be courteous?  

What if Aliens came down from the skies, what if....

What if didn't happen and this was not widespread.

In Sprint SSB I took the time to explain the rules to a number of people so
they understood what was going on and why hoping they would jump in and help
others. I hope they remember and find me in more contests. 

I have no idea what contests you operate in where exchanges take minutes but
the ARRL CW the exchange is about 5 seconds.  

Suppose over time no new contesters entered contests....

Contesting needs more ambassadors of goodwill and much less of this spin.


"A slip of the foot you may soon recover, but a slip of the tongue you may
never get over." Ben Franklin
-----Original Message-----
From: cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com
[mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of David Kopacz
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 1:05 AM
To: CQ Contest
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] No US DX Only - ARRL DX


Why not wait for a domestic contest like sweepstakes or field day to try
working US stations needed for your awards?

I understand your view on this issue, but have you thought about it from
another perspective?

Sure, it takes only a few minutes to work you and move on, and if the
station you are calling is not busy working DX stations, what's the harm? 

So a few US contest stations begin routinely working other US stations that
count 0 points simply as a courtesy to help out. Now others looking for
award related contacts pick up on this courtesy and they also begin seeking
US contacts during the ARRL International DX contest.

Suppose, over time, this practice becomes widely known and what was just a
few casual operators trying to pick up a few new states for an award becomes
a few hundred, or a few thousand. More and more newcomers start finding it
not only acceptable, but required for US stations to work them, log them and
confirm these contacts during an International DX contest.

Now, consider the amateur in a more difficult to work state or province, who
has spent considerable time and effort, not to mention money, and is trying
to win the contest but must work hundreds of 0 point stations whom may be
covering up weaker DX stations calling, one that count for valuable points
and multipliers.

While I am sure many people wouldn't give it another thought and simply work
you, there are others that may find it  inconsiderate to interrupt their DX
contest to work stations that count for 0 points, particularly when there
are plenty of contests that support these types of QSO's.

Perhaps people should consider the type of contest before making contacts
and work only those stations appropriate for the contest.
Besides, it isn't difficult for any US station to work any other US station
in any state and it is particularly easy to do this during contests such as
sweepstakes and field day.

I thought I would share another view before you are too hard on those that
signed "No US DX Only". It is quite possible you thought you were the only
one calling them when they heard many.

David ~ KY1V

Ok, I get it, no points for working a US station in ARRL DX.

As well as DX, I was also interested in picking up states for Triple Play,
since lots of states get spotted in this contest.  Both the stations I tried
to work in Washington state (big contesters) came back and said "No US DX
Only", or statements to that effect.

Out of hundreds of contacts both US and DX, the two stations I tried to work
in WA were the ONLY two stations to do this.  It wouldn't be so bad, but
they were CQ 'ing with NO ONE ANSWERING.  It took them longer to answer me
than it would have to put me in the log.  I'm not trying to say that this is
a Washington state thing.  Just annoying.

Some much needed stations (by everyone) that I worked this week (like
Hawaii, Idaho and Belarus) that were CQ'ing when I found them, I put spots
in for.  It was nice to hear them get busy after the spots.  I would have
done the same for the WA stations.

The contacts they would have gotten from the spot would have more than made
up for the 5 letters they would have had to transmit to me.  Oh wait, they
already transmitted more than 5 letters to tell me they wouldn't work me.

Just wanted to take a moment to send a big Thank You to the US stations that
worked me this weekend.  Thanks for helping to nurture contesting and
sharing the amateur spirit.  I very much appreciate the time you took to
answer my call.

Dave Wilburn
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