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Re: [CQ-Contest] IARU HF zones

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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] IARU HF zones
From: "Ron Notarius W3WN" <wn3vaw@verizon.net>
Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2010 17:37:56 -0400
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How do you know what someone is supposed to send?  Seriously?

That issue aside... and frankly, I agree that you copy what was sent, even
if it disagrees with what you (or the computer logging program) thinks
should have been sent in the borderline cases... 

This has a familiar ring to it.  IIRC, somewhere (I don't recall if it was
on this reflector or elsewhere offhand) it was pointed out that the "ITU"
zones used in the IARU contest don't precisely correspond to the official
ITU zone maps but have been adjusted to take state/province/country lines
into account.

Regardless... if someone sends me Zone 10, I copy Zone 10 regardless of what
the logging database thinks.  And I'm not going to waste time arguing.
There may be a good reason for that being sent, there may not, but the rules
say you copy what was sent... not what the logging software was
preprogrammed to expect.  Period.

73, ron w3wn

-----Original Message-----
From: cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com
[mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of David Gilbert
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 1:38 PM
To: cq-contest@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] IARU HF zones

I don't believe that the precise ITU zone borders are what the contest 
sponsors expect you to use.  If they were, I would be in zone 10, not 
zone 6.  Besides, how could anyone actually know what zone they are in 
if they were close to a line that didn't follow a political border?  
I've seen some pretty detailed official ITU zone maps but I still can't 
determine exactly where the dividing line is as it crosses southern 
Arizona.  Even if I could find the coordinates for the endpoints of the 
ITU boundary lines, I'd have to calculate the coordinates for any other 
point on the line.  I seriously doubt anyone expects us to do that.

Yes, we all should copy what is sent, but when someone doesn't send what 
they are supposed to it creates needless confusion.  In my opinion, you 
needlessly bring that lost QSO rate upon yourself.

I've sent an email to KX9X asking him to clarify this issue for the 
upcoming IARU contest and maybe he will reply.

Dave   AB7E

On 7/7/2010 6:22 AM, Joe wrote:
> But since 1977  I'm now in Wisconsin,  But in Zone 7!  But many assume
> being a 9 land Call and in Wisconsin, MANY assume that the border is the
> state line, and it is not!  I bet I easily in this contest loose a 10%
> QSO rate confirming that I'm in 07 NOT 08.  Grrrrr,
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