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Re: [CQ-Contest] Reasonable expections... was Cheerleaders and theimpact

To: Rex Maner <k7qq@netzero.net>, CQ Contest <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Reasonable expections... was Cheerleaders and theimpact
From: Zack Widup <w9sz.zack@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 10:31:26 -0500
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Hi Rex,

I use Audacity to record audio onto my computer from the radio, etc. If you
know exactly when you started the recording, the time index on the waveform
display allows you to place any time in the recording to at least within a
couple seconds.

It's one of the best free programs around. I recorded two hours of
transmissions from KPH during Night of Nights XI the other night. Audacity
said I still had 336 hours of recording time available on the hard drive.

73, Zack W9SZ

On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 8:17 AM, Rex Maner <k7qq@netzero.net> wrote:

> Good Thoughts about using a Recording to make new Logs (((  BUT  )) the
> times might be off a bit ???
> Quack
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Zack Widup" <w9sz.zack@gmail.com>
> To: "CQ Contest" <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 4:09 AM
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Reasonable expections... was Cheerleaders and
> theimpact
> Well, if that happened, in the first place what you sent in would NOT be
> your log. It would be some serious alteration provided by technology gone
> haywire. Yes, the op would deserve to know his computer generated something
> that was not his log.
> As for #2, the obvious would be to record the audio of your entire contest
> and then compare the log to the audio later on.
> So another scenario comes to mind - suppose you record the audio for the
> contest but the computer eats your log? Are you SOL or could you
> reconstruct
> a log from the audio? Assuming you would be creating the same log that your
> computer ate.
> 73, Zack W9SZ
> "It could happen to you - it could happen to me - it could happen to each
> of
> us eventually" - Anderson, Bruford, Wakeman and Howe
> On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 9:35 PM, Robert Chudek - K0RC <k0rc@citlink.net
> >wrote:
>> Now let's say you have been using a contest logging program for hundreds
>> of
>> contests. You would reasonably expect it would log the information you
>> typed
>> during the contest. You wouldn't "reasonably expect" it to change your
>> logged contest exchanges, especially without any indication or knowledge
>> on
>> your part.
>> But let's say this DID happen. The program went renegade and decided to
>> log
>> what it felt like, more or less at random. Let's further say this problem
>> did not
>> become apparent to hundreds of contesters until AFTER the contest was
>> over.
>> They all "reasonably expected" their Cabrillo file would contain what they
>> typed.
>> The first question: Does the operator have the "right to know" this
>> happened
>> to their log? Or should it be sent in first and reviewed later as
>> suggested?
>> The second question: What is a prudent course of action if this scenario
>> happened to you?
>> 73 de Bob - KØRC in MN
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