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Re: [CQ-Contest] 599

To: k5zd@charter.net, al_lorona@agilent.com, cq-contest@contesting.com, Dale Putnam <daleputnam@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] 599
From: Julius Fazekas <phriendly1@yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 04:43:24 -0700 (PDT)
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I would respectfully disagree with need for this and point to TBDC and various 
VHF contests where the entire exchange consists of a call and a grid square... 

It may be traditional, but it ain't necessary IMHO. As a PT QRPer, I do find 
real reports useful, but mostly non-existent. In a contest, the last thing I 
want someone weak doing is repeating "..... ----. ----." at 15WPM allowing the 
QRM/QRN/QSB to once again overwhelm the signal. 

Repeat da Meat, Snuff da Fluff... ;o)

In the rare instances where someone actually sends something other than 5NN, I 
do log it, as silly as that may sound.


Julius Fazekas

Tennessee Contest Group

Tennessee QSO Party

Elecraft K2     #4455
Elecraft K3/100 #366
Elecraft K3/100 #1875

--- On Wed, 7/21/10, Dale Putnam <daleputnam@hotmail.com> wrote:

> From: Dale Putnam <daleputnam@hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] 599
> To: k5zd@charter.net, al_lorona@agilent.com, cq-contest@contesting.com
> Date: Wednesday, July 21, 2010, 10:26 PM
> Yes, it is historic, and Randy is right. However, another
> way of looking at it, for voice or cw.... is that it sets
> the ear(s) to listen to the following with a whole lot more
> precision, and accuracy, (two different aspects) so the
> following important information can be heard and
> comprehended, and reacted to effectively and effeciently.
> Another way of looking at it, is that the 599, voice or cw,
> allows the rx brain to adjust the automatic filters to
> compensate for the qrn/qsb/qrm and allow the best possible
> reception, like using an audio filter and adjusting it with
> the controls available, for the best information transfer or
> most effective information transfer possible. 
>   If you don't think this is anywhere close to being
> accurate, try doing a 39,000 mile per watt exchange without
> the rst first. For that matter attempt to maintain a long,
> yet effective run with out fills, without the rst first. You
> will find that without the rst, the rate drops noticable,
> because you are asking for fills, from stations that you
> would normally not have to, because their signal is such
> that it wouldn't normally need to be filled, according to
> the s meter, or the signal to noise average. 
>   And for those that think the rst is killing their
> ability to rise to the top of the qso count, I would
> challange you to run without an rst, in say... any larger
> contest that doesnt specify use one... just don't send it.
> see how many fills you are asked for... for say a couple
> hours... then put it in, and send it... for another couple
> hours... count the number of times you are asked for a fill.
> Is this an accurate test? NO... yet if you do that simple
> test, from your very own station... in every test that you
> can for the next year.. at least for two hours each way...
> then map the responses... it would answer your very own
> situation. Is it needed.... or not?
> At your station now, not mine.. not Randy's, nor qrp,
> qro... or what... but your very own. 
> --... ...-- Dale - WC7S in Wy
> > From: k5zd@charter.net
> > To: al_lorona@agilent.com;
> cq-contest@contesting.com
> > Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 01:18:54 +0000
> > Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] 599
> > 
> > It's a historical artifact. And it serves as a
> familiar marker to indicate
> > the important part of the exchange will be coming
> next. :)
> > 
> > Do a contest some time that doesn't include the 599
> and you immediately
> > realize how useful it is!
> > 
> > Randy, K5ZD 
> > 
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