I understand and recognized from the start that a simple RA masks ones
location for purposes of DXCC entity locating.
My post was to point out that the US system is not so cut and dry either.
Why a signing W4/ or W6/ identifies one as a US station, the issue of ITU
zones and CQ zones are not apparent by the prefix. As noted earlier a W4
can be in either zone 4 or 5. A W7 can be in either zone 3 or 4 (tnx to
K4BAI for noting that I mentioned W6. It should have been W7).
73 Rich NN3W
----- Original Message -----
From: <sm6lrr@gmail.com>
To: <richnn3w@verizon.net>; <Ktfrog007@aol.com>; <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2011 2:46 AM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Russian CEPT-calls in c
> Rich, the issue is not about the uncertainty of which WAZ-zone a CEPT-user
> in Russia is located in... It is more complicated than that. I could
> operate from any past of continental Russia with the call RA/ without any
> indication to you or any other (incl. all logging software) if I am
> transmitting from any of the three available DXCC-countries: European
> Russia, Asiatic Russia or Kaliningrad (UA2). The correct comparison would
> be if I would operate as W/SM6LRR and have the choice to operate with that
> call from three US DXCC countries (mainland US, Alaska and Hawaii). In
> CQWW the zone would help to determine my location, but in WPX? 73 de
> RA/SM6LRR, Mats
>
> * Original message *
> From:
> richnn3w@verizon.net
> Sent:
> 23:40:38
> 12-05-2011
> To:
> Ktfrog007@aol.com
> cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject:
> Re: [CQ-Contest] Russian CEPT-calls in contests
>
> Erm, but if you are W4/SM6LRR, you could be in zone 5 or zone 4. Same
> with
> W6s
>
> 73 Rich NN3W
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <Ktfrog007@aol.com>
> To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 3:03 PM
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Russian CEPT-calls in contests
>
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> It's interesting that this situation is opposite that in the US. In the
>> CQ WW, for example, you cannot tell the zone of a stateside station by
>> its
>> call. AB1J could be located anywhere in the lower 48. However, if
>> SM6LRR
>> was operating here, say as W3/SM6LRR, you would know his zone
>> immediately.
>>
>> 73,
>> Kermit, AB1J
>>
>> In a message dated 5/12/2011 6:22:32 P.M. GMT Standard Time,
>> sm6lrr@gmail.com writes:
>>
>> Russia has now signed all papers for CEPT.
>>
>> This is excellent and will simplify the process of operating from Russia
>> for
>> hams from CEPT-countries.
>>
>> However, there is one complicating factor I would like to bring to your
>> attention.
>>
>> Before, my Russian callsign was R3/SM6LRR. Not an ideal contest call by
>> any
>> means, but contesters are flexible people and quick learners, so this
>> call
>> does not cause all that much attention or problem anymore.
>>
>> My NEW call will starting from today be RA/SM6LRR. Yes - You got it... a
>> call that can be used from anywhere in a country with 9 time zones.
>> There
>> is
>> no chance for anyone (including all existing contest logging software)
>> to
>> actually know where I am located. I can either be in European Russia,
>> Asiatic Russia or in Kalingrad (UA2F/K).
>>
>> In contests with Serial Number exchanges (like CQ-M this weekend, CQ
>> WPX,
>> SAC and many others), it is impossible to judge if a RA/ callsign is
>> located
>> in European or Asiatic Russia - or in the enclave Kaliningrad.
>>
>> A bit confusing, right?
>>
>> Things might change in the future when the new Russian Callsign and Call
>> Area System has been approved by the Ministry of Justice of the Russian
>> Federation....
>>
>> But until further notice; R3/SM6LRR does not exist anymore. RA/SM6LRR
>> will
>> be the new call, but the location is the same (Moscow Oblast in
>> European
>> Russia).
>>
>> Have fun - see you in the contests ;)
>>
>> RA/SM6LRR, Mats
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