Re JA3ODC....I was one of the ops at VP2KC in '79 when Masa did it. It was on
15 meters and it was done almost entirely in Japanese (and handwritten logs
done by the operator himself).
It was unbelievable.
Steve AA4V
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 11:40:07 -0800
> From: w7dra@juno.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Run rates back in the day
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> Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 21:29:12 -0000
> From: <john@kk9a.com>
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Run rates back in the day
> To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
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> Back in 1979 JA3ODC had a 480 / hour rate in CQWW SSB. I don't believe
> anyone has ever exceeded this rate, although N5TJ tied it in the 2004 CQ WW
> SSB.
>
> John KK9A / P40A
>
>
>
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Run rates back in the day
> From: Ktfrog007@aol.com
> Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 10:45:50 -0500 (EST)
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> Hi,
>
> I have a question for old time contesters. Before the Internet, packet
> radio, DX clusters and skimmers, what were typical CW and SSB contest
> running
> rates? I imagine they must have been much less than current ones.
>
> 73,
> Kermit, AB1J
>
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 19:27:23 -0800
> From: George Cutsogeorge <george.w2vjn@gmail.com>
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Run rates back in the day
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
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> In the mid to late 60s I had a rate meter in the center console of my
> station. It incremented each time I sent the QSL msg. The full scale was
> based on 50 qsos/hr and it reset each 15 minutes to zero. It was a good
> incentive to watch while operating. There was a QST cover with big
> headlines ?40 QSOs per hour for 48 hours? after Vic Clark won the SS again
> one year. Later, I redesigned it to go to 100.
>
> George W2VJN
>
>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2012 10:54:51 +0400
> From: "V.Shevtsov" <valery.shevtsov@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Run rates back in the day
> To: <john@kk9a.com>, <cq-contest@contesting.com>
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> In same 1979 year I have in CQWW SSB 220 qso/hour with JA on 15 m
> I remember that exactly because it was my own all time record.
>
> Larry
>
> RW4WZ
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com
>> [mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of john@kk9a.com
>> Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 1:29 AM
>> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
>> Cc: Ktfrog007@aol.com
>> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Run rates back in the day
>>
>> Back in 1979 JA3ODC had a 480 / hour rate in CQWW SSB. I
>> don't believe anyone has ever exceeded this rate, although
>> N5TJ tied it in the 2004 CQ WW SSB.
>>
>> John KK9A / P40A
>>
>>
>>
>> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
>> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Run rates back in the day
>> From: Ktfrog007@aol.com
>> Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 10:45:50 -0500 (EST)
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>> Hi,
>>
>> I have a question for old time contesters. Before the
>> Internet, packet radio, DX clusters and skimmers, what were
>> typical CW and SSB contest running rates? I imagine they
>> must have been much less than current ones.
>>
>> 73,
>> Kermit, AB1J
>>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2012 01:02:21 -0500
> From: "David Thompson" <thompson@mindspring.com>
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Run rates back in the day
> To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
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> I was fortunate to operate the ARRL SS from a rare state (MS). I got to run
> from the start.
>
> 1958 821 QSOs 40 hours 20.5 Q/Hr (My first contest 3rd High Nationally.
>
> 1959 980 QSOs 40 hours 24.5 Q/HR. High Phone score
>
> 1962 1301 QSOs 40 hours 32.5 Q/HR SSB helped and 2nd Nationally 3rd
> Overall (CW and Phone).
>
> 1963 1006 QSOs in limited 26 hour operating. 38.6 Q/HR. 90% SSB. This did
> prove that 1000 QSOs were possible in a 24 hour period.
>
> Our Club won 3A on Field Day 3 times between 1959 and 1970. I recall we had
> several runs of 50 per hour and set the goal of a minimum od 20 per hour
> when the band was open.
>
> DX Contests was mainly S&P until about 1967. I sent K1AR QSOs made by me as
> USA winner and 5A1TW (now N2AA) for the 1962 Cq WW.
> seldom did either hit 20 Q/HR. John reported this in his CQ Contest Column.
> I do remember my first real run of JA's in 1967. I was working them right
> over the top of the W6RW Multi on 15. One hour was 140 and the second hit
> 170 and would have been higher if the band had not started closing.
>
> As late as 1971 I made 1350 QSOs in 73 hours in the ARRL DX. This averages
> 18.5 with a couple of runs at 70 per hour.
>
> There was a lot less activity for Dx Contests until the 1980's. Even the
> East Coast Multi's had numerous low hours especially in the 1960's. Dave
> K2GM (SK) told me that at K2GL he could have several hours on 10 of less
> than 10 QSOs per hour. Even with the dominate signal on a band from the USA
> you often had to scratch for QSOs.
>
> 73 Dave K4JRB Ex K5MDX
>
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2012 09:21:43 -0800 (PST)
> From: n7wa@arrl.net
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2012 NAQP RTTY - February - All 3830 Claimed
> Scores 26Feb2012
> To: CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> Message-ID: <20120226172143.BE4FB1928749@b4h.net>
>
> 2012 NAQP RTTY - February - All 3830 Claimed Scores 26Feb2012
>
> NOTE: This list is NOT a list of submitted logs received by the contest
> sponsor. It is based solely on the claimed scores posted to the 3830
> reflector via the web forms available at the 3830 Score Web Page shown below.
>
> Submit logs by: Mar 10, 2012
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> Contest Station Database - http://conteststations.com/
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> 73 dink
>
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club/Team
> All M/2 LP
> N0NI 1318 196 12 274,144 Iowa DX and Contest
> NU2F(@W2FU) 1130 214 12 241,820 NCC
> WW4LL 1048 194 11 215,888 ACG
> N0TA 166 67 3.0 11,122 Grand Mesa
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club/Team
> All Single Op HP
> W7RN(WK6I) 952 226 10 215,152 NCCC #1
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club/Team
> All Single Op LP
> AA5AU 932 211 9.5 196,652 Louisiana Contest Cl
> AB5K 1010 194 10 195,940 CTDXCC
> W0LSD 973 201 10 195,573 Grand Mesa
> K6LL 779 219 10 170,601 SWACC #1
> AA3B 878 191 10 167,698 SWACC #1
> WA5ZUP 801 198 10 158,598 SWACC #1
> N9CK 831 186 10 154,566 SMC Team One
> N6RO 727 210 10 152,670 NCCC #3
> W7WW 713 206 10 146,878 SWACC #1
> NR5M 787 179 10 140,694 DFW Contest Group
>
> K8IA 704 191 10 134,464 AOCC Gunslingers
> K2PO 697 183 9:41 132,430 WVDXC
> K7TQ 672 190 10 127,680 SDXA Team Klingon
> AI9T 703 171 10 120,213 SMC Team One
> NG7Z 660 182 10 120,120 Marks in Space
> WA7LNW 645 170 10 113,520 AOCC Gunslingers
> VA7ST 567 195 9.5 110,565 Aurora Busters
> N4BAA 608 177 10 107,616 YCCC
> V31RR(AA4NC) 608 172 10 107,616 PVRC
> VA7AM(@VE7SZ) 619 169 10 104,611 OrcaTypes
>
> W2ORC(N2WK) 601 172 10 103,372 OCARC
> W7ZR 571 176 10 100,496 AOCC Gunslingers
> W0BR 658 148 97,384 FRC
> WS7I(@WA7LT) 530 181 10 95,930 SWACC #2
> AD4EB 601 155 7.5 93,155 TCG #1
> W1UJ 607 152 8.5 92,264 YCCC
> W7OM 524 172 9 90,128 Marks in Space
> K9NR 576 155 10 89,280 SMC Team One
> WT6P 511 169 8:50 88,403 AOCC Gunslingers
> AB4GG 574 151 10 86,674 TCG #1
>
> NN6NN(W6XK) 472 183 08:23 86,376 NCCC
> WD0T(@KD0S) 543 158 8.0 85,794
> VA7KO 523 162 9:45 85,772 OrcaTypes
> NT0F 583 147 10 85,701
> K7IA 528 162 9:58 85,536
> WB4YDL 540 145 10 82,080 TCG #1
> N3QE 516 149 10 81,012 PVRC #1
> VE3KI 475 167 10 79,325 CCO
> NX8G/5 542 143 10 77,506 Louisiana Contest Cl
> AA8R 518 147 10 76,146
>
> KF0UR 497 147 10 75,544 Grand Mesa
> K7HP 444 158 10 72,372 AOCC Bushwhackers
> KL7RA 488 141 10 71,248
> K4FJ 471 151 9 71,121 PVRC
> N2NS 458 155 9:45 70,990 NCCC #2
> W4RK 469 142 9.5 70,819 TCG #1
> W1BYH 437 162 10 70,794 CTRI
> KB9UWU 516 134 9 69,144 SMC Team One
> K2DSL 450 153 10 68,850 Bergen Amateur Radio
> N1YX 463 146 10 67,598 YCCC
>
> NR4M 479 135 10 66,511 PVRC
> W1ZD 430 149 64,070 AOCC Gunslingers
> N9LAH 451 139 8 62,689 Metro Mutz 2
> W4UK 442 140 10 61,880 SECC
> KS5A 380 151 10 60,420 AOCC Bushwhackers
> K1GU 436 138 8.2 60,168 TCG #2
> AB2ZY 429 136 9 59,492
> W7WHY 368 146 8 55,568 WVDXC
> K0TG 423 130 8 54,990 MWA
> K3FIV 381 139 9 54,483 NCCC
>
> KD7MSC 398 132 53,730 PDXRCC Diddlers
> AB1OD 370 134 10 52,170 YCCC
> W6WRT 361 144 7.6 51,984
> N2BJ 404 128 9 51,712 SMC Team One
> VE2EBK 365 138 50,370 Contest Group du Que
> KL8DX 433 112 9 50,228 NCC
> N4KG 351 140 8:42 49,980 ACG
> K0YQ 355 135 8 47,925
> W7LD 331 136 10 45,016
> NB4M 350 121 6 44,800 TCG #3
>
> K0IDT 358 117 44,750
> KI7Y 314 138 10 43,332 WVDXC
> K8SM 335 125 7 43,215
> VE7IO 343 113 8.5 39,778 OrcaTypes
> VA3PC 310 124 9 38,440 CCO
> W4BCG 306 125 8 38,250 TCG #2
> N2CU 296 126 5.75 37,296 NCC
> N2FF 307 117 7 35,919 Digi Owls
> WO6M 280 124 34,720
> N3XL 292 114 8 33,288 PVRC #2
>
> N7VEA 253 131 33,143
> WB2RHM 255 123 8.5 31,365 Mecklenburg ARS
> W7VP 255 118 6.3 30,855 Redmond Contest Club
> K6LRN 254 121 6 30,734 NCCC #3
> W1PL 320 93 10 30,720
> K7ZD 251 122 n/a 30,622 AOCC Bushwhackers
> NA2M 301 101 30,401 Digi Owls
> KS2G 267 107 5.75 28,569 Digi Owls
> KT7E 312 87 28,080 PDXRCC Diddlers
> KE7AUB 258 103 8.25 26,574 PDXRCC Diddlers
>
> NM5M 260 102 9.5 26,520 DFW Contest Group
> W6NF 238 111 5:03 26,418 NCCC #2
> KU7Y 245 102 10 25,970 AOCC Bandits
> N0BUI 279 89 25,389 MWA
> WA6KEK 230 110 9 25,300 SCCC #1
> WA1DRQ 217 104 09:46 24,304 YCCC
> N6WIN 207 108 4.5 22,356 SCCC #2
> N2YBB 217 97 6 21,049 Digi Owls
> KN3A 189 101 19,846 AOCC Bandits
> K7MKL 242 78 4:40 18,876 NCCC #2
>
> KC7V 180 101 8.5 18,180 Arizona Outlaws Cont
> NF4A 199 88 5,0 17,512 ACG
> N2MUN 185 92 17,390 Digi Owls
> W1TO 191 87 3:33 16,617 YCCC
> K6OK 175 93 9.8 16,450 NCCC #3
> N1JM 194 81 16,019
> NJ1F 210 74 5 15,960 YCCC
> K4EDI 204 76 15,504 Bristol (TN/VA) ARC
> WB5TUF 173 81 3 14,013 TDXS
> KM6I 157 80 4 13,031 NCCC
>
> W6RLL 148 87 3 12,876 Arizona Outlaws Cont
> K4IQJ 163 75 4 12,225 ACG
> NA2U 140 79 6:26 11,340 AOCC Bandits
> KV7DX(AA7V) 135 76 3 10,260 AOCC Bushwhackers
> WL7BDO 144 63 6 9,072
> WB6JJJ 130 61 7,930 NCCC
> WT6K 133 59 5.5 7,847 NCCC
> VE3XAT 122 59 7,198 CCO
> W0RO 117 57 5 6,669 Grand Mesa
> WB9WOZ 109 56 6 6,104
>
> W1UE 100 56 1.67 5,600 YCCC
> AL1G 117 47 4:00 5,499
> WO7V 92 52 2 5,244 WVDXC
> AE1T 114 44 5,016 YCCC
> KF7IUH 81 57 4,779 AOCC Bandits
> K6ST 80 57 6 4,560 NCCC #3
> AA5VU 75 53 PT 3,975 CTDXCC
> KH6GMP 100 35 12 3,500
> VE6SQ 85 33 2.2 2,805
> KD9MS 70 33 1.5 2,450 SMC
>
> KU5B(@NX5M) 66 29 1 1,914 CTDXCC
> NX5M 41 23 1 984 CTDXCC
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club/Team
> All Single Op QRP
> VA3DF 306 119 10 36,414 CCO
> K7ZS 263 110 8 28,930 PDXRCC Diddlers
> VE3HG 165 90 14,850 CCO
> K2YG 77 46 3,542
>
>
> Operators:
> N0NI N0AC,N0NI,N0XR,NU0Q
> NU2F K0SM,N2ZN
> WW4LL K9MUG,KK4DAN,N4LR,WW4LL
>
>
> Teams:
>
> AOCC Bandits:
> KU7Y 25,970
> KN3A 19,846
> NA2U 11,340
> KF7IUH 4,779
> Team Total: 61,935
>
> AOCC Bushwhackers:
> K7HP 72,372
> KS5A 60,420
> K7ZD 30,622
> KV7DX(AA7V) 10,260
> Team Total: 173,674
>
> AOCC Gunslingers:
> K8IA 134,464
> WA7LNW 113,520
> W7ZR 100,496
> WT6P 88,403
> W1ZD 64,070
> Team Total: 500,953
>
> Aurora Busters:
> VA7ST 110,565
> Team Total: 110,565
>
> Bristol (TN/VA) ARC:
> K4EDI 15,504
> Team Total: 15,504
>
> DFW Contest Group:
> NR5M 140,694
> NM5M 26,520
> Team Total: 167,214
>
> Digi Owls:
> N2FF 35,919
> NA2M 30,401
> KS2G 28,569
> N2YBB 21,049
> N2MUN 17,390
> Team Total: 133,328
>
> Louisiana Contest Club:
> AA5AU 196,652
> NX8G/5 77,506
> Team Total: 274,158
>
> Marks in Space:
> NG7Z 120,120
> W7OM 90,128
> Team Total: 210,248
>
> Metro Mutz 2:
> N9LAH 62,689
> Team Total: 62,689
>
> NCCC #1:
> W7RN(WK6I) 215,152
> Team Total: 215,152
>
> NCCC #2:
> N2NS 70,990
> W6NF 26,418
> K7MKL 18,876
> Team Total: 116,284
>
> NCCC #3:
> N6RO 152,670
> K6LRN 30,734
> K6OK 16,450
> K6ST 4,560
> Team Total: 204,414
>
> OCARC:
> W2ORC(N2WK) 103,372
> Team Total: 103,372
>
> OrcaTypes:
> VA7AM(@VE7SZ) 104,611
> VA7KO 85,772
> VE7IO 39,778
> Team Total: 230,161
>
> PDXRCC Diddlers:
> KD7MSC 53,730
> K7ZS 28,930
> KT7E 28,080
> KE7AUB 26,574
> Team Total: 137,314
>
> PVRC #1:
> N3QE 81,012
> Team Total: 81,012
>
> PVRC #2:
> N3XL 33,288
> Team Total: 33,288
>
> SCCC #1:
> WA6KEK 25,300
> Team Total: 25,300
>
> SCCC #2:
> N6WIN 22,356
> Team Total: 22,356
>
> SDXA Team Klingon:
> K7TQ 127,680
> Team Total: 127,680
>
> SMC Team One:
> N9CK 154,566
> AI9T 120,213
> K9NR 89,280
> KB9UWU 69,144
> N2BJ 51,712
> Team Total: 484,915
>
> SWACC #1:
> K6LL 170,601
> AA3B 167,698
> WA5ZUP 158,598
> W7WW 146,878
> Team Total: 643,775
>
> SWACC #2:
> WS7I(@WA7LT) 95,930
> Team Total: 95,930
>
> TCG #1:
> AD4EB 93,155
> AB4GG 86,674
> WB4YDL 82,080
> W4RK 70,819
> Team Total: 332,728
>
> TCG #2:
> K1GU 60,168
> W4BCG 38,250
> Team Total: 98,418
>
> TCG #3:
> NB4M 44,800
> Team Total: 44,800
>
>
>
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