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Re: [CQ-Contest] Remote Control in Contests

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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Remote Control in Contests
From: W0MU Mike Fatchett <w0mu@w0mu.com>
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 10:09:13 -0600
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Someone had to build a station, setup antennas, get them to work and 
keep them working.

Anyone can win a certificate in any contest by simply picking the right 
class to enter.  Sure there are places you can go that you can set up 
minimal antennas and radios and do very well.  So what?   How does 
remote operation change that.

If someone wants to setup 10 remote stations and split their time so be 
it.  It offers me the opportunity to work 9 new stations from a mult 
that might not be available otherwise.  I am having FUN and so is the 
other guy.

I am not sure what you are beating around the bush about.  I suspect 
cheating and we have a tough time with that anyway.  How does CQ know 
that W0MU was operating W0MU and not some other guy?  They don't.  
People cheat and will always cheat.  Cheaters get exposed most of the 
time.  If you are in Europe how do I know you are in Italy or France?  
There is nothing stopping anyone from obtaining multiple callsigns and 
using them.  In fact, I received cards for J6M 2 minutes apart from the 
same guy using called from two different EU countries.  I alerted both 
CQ and ARRL to this and it is theirs to deal with.

How the other countries handle this is their business.  If they deem it 
ok then who are we to question them?

Change is good folks...It moved us from spark gap transmitters to what 
we have today.

Most times you would never know if the guy you are working is remote or 
not.  So why does it matter?  What assurances do you have today that the 
guy you are working is where he says he is?  None.  There are all sorts 
of stories about dx peditions especially to the Caribbean that never 
took place from the place they claimed.  Some were caught others were not.

This is a hobby.  If remote operations make it more fun for people and 
create more activity I am for it.

Mike W0MU

W0MU-1 CC Cluster w0mu.net

On 4/12/2012 8:21 AM, k3bu@optimum.net wrote:
> Hans, K0HB, "Just a boy and his (friends) radio" wrote:
>> Clearly stated, the STATION licensee.
>> 73, de Hans, K0HB
>> "Just a boy and his radio"
> One day T. Arcala FT1000 (station) went to Azores Dept. of radio licenses and 
> got (bought?) him (her)self station licenses and managed to win contest 
> without having boy at the station. He even got precious certificate to prove 
> it!
> The point is that some of the loud arguers argument that remoteering is just 
> extending the headphones and mike "wires" is not so simple. How do the 
> licensing authorities look at situation when station in their country is 
> operated by someone whoknowswhere? Possible solution signing CQ8X/OH2UA/r?
> Now the technology allows boy to have part of his radios all over the world 
> and to pretend being there - single op - split? Time for new category?
> That would make too much sense. Why bother when ham radio logic is happy with 
> skewed scoring system in the world's wide biggest contest, hired guns are 
> single op and skimmer is a person-assistant, 3QSO "penalty". Instead of 
> listening to top contester's opinions, the chatter of (internet) loud 
> opinions sets the course and contest radio governments cast the rules in 
> stone.
> Technology is progressing and bringing new dimensions to our hobby/sport, we 
> should carefully consider the implications and adjust our contests rules and 
> categories to accommodate the progress.
> Need new country? Let me know, I will mail or drop from the airplane the 
> other half of my station there and give you a NEW one! We should have all 
> countries on the air 24/7 very soon. We need more frequencies, wider bands to 
> accommodate all of their perpetual CQing so everyone can have ALL 
> multipliers. Oh, and don't forget the robot "stations", I don't need me 
> anymore, K3BUr will be making contacts long after I am gone.
> Just wanted to shine some light at the "wire extended mike/key" idea, that 
> maybe is not so simple especially when it involves cross border control - one 
> pretending to be somewhere else.
> 73  Yuri, soon 1S1AAA/K3BU
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