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Re: [CQ-Contest] Log Submission Times

To: Ron Notarius W3WN <wn3vaw@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Log Submission Times
From: Robert Chudek - K0RC <k0rc@citlink.net>
Reply-to: k0rc@citlink.net
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 15:55:42 -0500
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Ron...

Let me be the first to admit that sometimes I have been "lazy".

Here's the real problem, procrastination. If there's a 30-day time 
limit, sometimes I have shut the radio off, walked away, rested, get 
involved with other things, a day goes by, then a week, then several 
weeks. Pretty soon I don't even remember whether I sent in a log or not. 
That's the consequence of my being "lazy".

Now it takes even more effort to go to the "received logs" webpage or 
rummage through my outgoing mailbox. Last year I was saved by a log 
tickler email message. I was certain I had sent the log, but a half hour 
of investigation revealed, nope, I had not. I think I forgot to take my 
C.R.S. medicine that day, but I can't remember.

Seriously, with a 5-day deadline (I do prefer 1 week as others have 
posted), it is an incentive to "get'r done". The shortened deadline is 
going to force more people to be proactive instead of reactive about log 
submission. Including me.

73 de Bob - KØRC in MN

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On 7/25/2012 3:11 PM, Ron Notarius W3WN wrote:
> Maybe it's just me, but somehow, implying that people who think a 5 day 
> deadline is too short "lazy" is just a tad insulting. And certainly 
> unnecessary.
> Personally, if I were allowed to have an opinion, I'd say that under normal 
> (not extenuating or special) circumstances, 7 to 10 days is quite reasonable; 
> anything over 14 is probably too much, and anything less than 5 is 
> unreasonable. Simply allowing for normal human activities... a chance to take 
> a break, catch some rest, or deal with other things right after the moment 
> the contest is over.
> However, I've been informed that since I disagree with another policy of the 
> various CQ contest committees (a deceased equine that's been beaten quite 
> enough, thank you), and as such decline to submit logs, I'm no longer 
> permitted to have an opinion on CQ sponsored contests. So it goes.
> 73, ron w3wn
> --------------------
> On 07/25/12, Robert Chudek - K0RC wrote:
>
> No Chris, your opinion is absolutely relevant. Apparently the world-wide
> education system has been successful in creating the "Everyone's a
> winner, here's your trophy for last place." mind set.
>
> The CQ committee already has a provision for those who can't/won't make
> the 5-day deadline. What is so difficult with pressing a key to generate
> a Cabrillo file, attach it to an email, and send it to the contest
> sponsor. This can be done with 1 minute of effort right after you have
> decided you are done with the contest. I've sent logs in even before the
> contest period was over.
>
> If a contester can't manage that 1 minute effort, they can email an
> extension request. Something like "I'm too lazy to get my log in on
> time". The only difference in the amount of effort is with the extension
> request, they didn't have to push the "create Cabrillo file" key and
> attach it.
>
> 73 de Bob - K�RC in MN
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> On 7/25/2012 12:13 PM, Christian Schneider wrote:
>> Quote: "I really like this approach: treat different customers differently.
>> ... 5 days might be long time for Top Notch Operators, but It's too short
>> for casual "having fun" participants."
>>
>>
>> No. Rules are rules and their inherent character (like laws) is that they
>> are the same for every participant. If we start deviding, we loose the last
>> tiny right to speak about radio-"sport". Who should be the big instance to
>> decide who is a "casual participant" having fun only? Below 1k qso there is
>> no competetive operating? Business class for the real contesters, rest to be
>> neglected. Thanks, understood...
>>
>> But that is the opinion of a small pistol and therefore of course not too
>> relevant.
>>
>> 73, Chris (DL8MBS)
>>
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