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Re: [CQ-Contest] Real-time Radiosport

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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Real-time Radiosport
From: Zack Widup <w9sz.zack@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2013 09:55:43 -0600
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Yes, but I guess it's the nature of the beast. Amateur radio
contesting is an unusual "sport" in that it requires accurate logging
of information from another. The only way to determine accuracy is to
do a cross-check of others' logs. Several thousand contacts can
involve some time. Most or all of the others' logs must also be
available to the log checker. A person's final score is dependent on
that accuracy.

I can't think of any other sport where such scoring techniques are involved.

73, Zack W9SZ

On 3/10/13, Ward Silver <hwardsil@gmail.com> wrote:
> In my opinion, the biggest obstacle to maintaining the connected
> generation's interest in radiosport is how long it takes to figure out
> who actually won.  The contests are fairly exciting and challenging
> whether you use spotting information or not.  They get that and are
> intrigued by the worldwide aspect and the dependence on solar and
> terrestrial conditions.  But their interest usually dissipates
> immediately (and irrevocably) when you explain that the results aren't
> known for several weeks or months.  Even the fastest reporting - WRTC's
> 24-hours - is ridiculous to someone accustomed to knowing their score
> and place not only immediately following the end of the game but at all
> times throughout the game.
>
> So we can argue all we want about format and point counts and spots or
> no spots but those come in a distant second.  I don't believe there is
> much to be gained by changing the user interface to be more game-like,
> rather to use the power of the Internet to conduct the administration of
> the event in the time-frame to which people have become accustomed.
> "Waiting for the magazine to come out" is not part of the modern
> sporting lexicon.
>
> 73, Ward N0AX
>
>
> On 3/10/2013 6:09 AM, W9OL wrote:
>> I would only comment that....if you watch the kids today. They play
>> video games. Faster, more instinctive, instant gratification, almost
>> to the point of addictive. A slower, more polite, contest may not
>> attract any of the young bloods. Now don't dump on me....I work a lot
>> of contests, nice and easy, chase who I want, and have a quiet type of
>> fun. But I don't think the kids - potentially ham contesters, would
>> find a more relaxed contesting style attractive. But then I may be
>> wrong...it happens, ask my wife! On 2013-03-09 4:48 PM, Radio K0HB wrote:
>>> >Radioman skills would improve.  Contesting would be a lot more
>>> > rewarding,
>>> >with a real sense of accomplishment.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >On Saturday, March 9, 2013, Tom Osborne wrote:
>>> >
>>>> >>What is the downside of nobody using cluster spots in contests?  73
>>>> >>
>>>> >>Tom W7WHY
>
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